Before anybody criticizes members of this board for applauding a declining equities market

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Before anybody criticizes members of this board for applauding a declining equities market the markets are going to do what the markets are going to do, the hopes , wishes, and passions of DU notwithstanding.

I will say rising interest rates makes bonds more attractive and increases the cost of borrowing. Neither are good for equities.

[MineralMan]

1. As you say, the markets do what the markets do.

I haven't seen anyone celebrating the losses. I have seen a number of people, including myself, who see them as important indicators of current conditions, and therefore extremely interesting.

I have no equities ownership. It is an academic interest on my part.

[NCTraveler]

2. "markets are going to what the markets are going to do"

Markets are influenced by things. They don't just do what they are going to do. They have no mind of their own. The stimulus package and other incentives had a dramatic impact on the market. The market reacts.

I have seen no argument that posts on this board have had an impact.

[Kirk Lover]

3. Yes of course the market reacts...it's not just running itself over there. If anything the market

is emotional and not just doing what it's gonna do with no outside influences etc effecting it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I understand that.

I have seen posts suggesting we are are happy and that a market decline will hurt people's pensions and 401Ks and we are wrong for hoping for that.

Wall Street doesn't care about our hopes.

[NCTraveler]

9. I think it's a bit strange of a thing to hope for.

As you said, it has no impact in the end. They are more statements of self than anything else.

[janterry]

4. I feel very bad about what is happening with the market

n/t

[oasis]

6. Market fall down, go boom, brings gloom and doom.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

7. Just peeked in at cavuto and fox business network SOLUTION

Both figured it out the falling stock market

"Cut entitlements "

I kid you not

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. That would only reduce demand.

[YessirAtsaFact]

10. Youre being logical-cut that crap out

It interferes with the talking points

[Lisa0825]

11. I don't feel bad about the market.

It was overdue for a correction anyway.

I sold my funds a few months back. I hope to get back in when it levels out.

[OilemFirchen]

12. I welcome this correction. I doubt it will have any effect.

A healthy exchange requires fluctuations. Algorithmic computerized trading has all but eliminated the norms of investing, allowing for hyper-inflated stock and index valuations. Conventional metrics have been shoved aside and stocks are now valued based upon their own intrinsic value, rather than the value of the underlying equity.

I've spent decades arguing that treating currency as if it is a commodity is a bastardization of the mechanics of a market. Now that stock has essentially been commoditized, there are no actual markets.

Until there's dramatic regulation of currency trading - and a corresponding crash - the markets are nothing but a cruel joke - one which exacerbates wealth inequality and portends utter ruin for all those not in the moneyed class.

[ooky]

14. And unfortunately, for many people there is no where else to put their money except for into this

scam, since zero interest rates have killed off all the traditional savings methods.

[OilemFirchen]

15. Can't even get a good dividend anymore.

Beanie Babies are done for. Are tulips making a comeback?

[ooky]

13. Nobody should be criticized for applauding the drop.

Its not political. How people choose to navigate the market is a free choice, whether you decide to ride it out and hope for a minimal drop, or get out and wait for a good bottoming out before returning. Criticizing someone for exercising their choice and hoping it will be the right choice is silly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Folks are being criticized not for shorting the market but for hoping it tanks and Trump will ...

some folks here are being criticized ,not for shorting the market but for hoping it tanks and Trump will be blamed.