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herding cats

(19,565 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:13 AM Feb 2018

Its official, another government shutdown.

At least a short term one, that is.




A government shutdown will begin at midnight. The Senate has recessed until 12:01 a.m. without passing a spending bill.

BREAKING NEWS: A government shutdown will begin at midnight. The Senate has recessed until 12:01 a.m. without passing a spending bill.

The Senate planned to vote early Friday morning on a spending bill that would pour billions of dollars into the military and domestic programs while keeping the government operating.

The fate of the bill was uncertain in the House, where conservatives balked at adding billions to the nation’s debt and liberals demanded action on protecting young undocumented immigrants from deportation.

The House leadership had advised lawmakers to “prepare for late night or early morning votes.”

White House Office of Management and Budget spokesman John Czwartacki said late Thursday that “agencies are now being urged to review and prepare for a lapse” in spending after midnight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/house-leaders-scramble-to-win-support-for-budget-deal-ahead-of-midnight-deadline/2018/02/08/4812e996-0cd9-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?__twitter_impression=true

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Its official, another government shutdown. (Original Post) herding cats Feb 2018 OP
Fuck the pukes. nt BootinUp Feb 2018 #1
I have friends who won't EVER ... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #30
Incompetence. Complete, Total and Utter Incompetence. democratisphere Feb 2018 #2
Rand Paul did it. A single Senator has the power to block the vote, and he did. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #7
All of these issues should have been worked out and buttoned up long ago. democratisphere Feb 2018 #8
+1 n/t LuckyCharms Feb 2018 #10
He can only stall for 31 hours after midnight I believe. herding cats Feb 2018 #9
What About The House?... global1 Feb 2018 #16
They do. herding cats Feb 2018 #17
ty for that info. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #33
I hope those who are furloughed and Cha Feb 2018 #22
Turning America into a third world shit hole Matthew28 Feb 2018 #3
And rip apart wilderness klook Feb 2018 #31
is this the new normal? ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 #4
One of the conditions that led to Hitler's ascendance was the inability of the German jalan48 Feb 2018 #5
Woo hoo! So much winning it'll make your head spin! ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #6
Hypocrite Me. Feb 2018 #11
Hes just grandstanding for his followers. herding cats Feb 2018 #12
That is his goal Matthew28 Feb 2018 #13
Yep. herding cats Feb 2018 #14
I feel it came to pass in a stealthy manner. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #18
And, no accountability from their voters. herding cats Feb 2018 #19
Defying reason and sanity. I have never in all my born days. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #20
Flaming Hypocrite who Insults the Intelligence Cha Feb 2018 #23
So True Me. Feb 2018 #32
yesss... dweller Feb 2018 #15
I'm almost thinking this is a GOP ploy haele Feb 2018 #21
Mahalo for this herding.. K&R for Cha Feb 2018 #24
Rand Paul objection forces shutdown struggle4progress Feb 2018 #25
Senate approves budget deal, too late to avert shutdown struggle4progress Feb 2018 #26
Senate votes to reopen the government, sending budget deal to the House struggle4progress Feb 2018 #27
And they are still the best government leaders that money can buy. Kablooie Feb 2018 #28
Tired of winning yet? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2018 #29

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
30. I have friends who won't EVER ...
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:08 AM
Feb 2018

Recover from Canadian Cruz's shutdown from 2013. Their 401k retirement funds took a BEATING.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. Rand Paul did it. A single Senator has the power to block the vote, and he did.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:27 AM
Feb 2018
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is preventing a two-year budget deal from passing, as the White House advised federal agencies to prepare for the government to start shutting down at midnight.
Congressional negotiators were scrambling earlier Thursday to lock in enough votes in the House, and that was before Paul, a Republican, made public his dissatisfaction with the deal, which would raise government spending, avert a government shutdown and lift the debt ceiling.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/politics/budget-vote-congress-shutdown/index.html

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
8. All of these issues should have been worked out and buttoned up long ago.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:37 AM
Feb 2018

There is no reason for everything to always be done at the last or past the last second with all of the drama and BS! Rand Paul had no problem with the tax REDISTRIBUTION of wealth to the wealthiest that will rack up more than $1.5 trillon in additional debt. Rand Paul loves the limelight and the camera.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
9. He can only stall for 31 hours after midnight I believe.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:37 AM
Feb 2018

They have to wait until 1AM to vote now, and then another 30 hours for debate before passage if they have the votes. This is all on McConnell for waiting until the last minute and giving Paul a chance to exploit an arcane Senate rule.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
17. They do.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:01 AM
Feb 2018

They’re a bit of a wildcard in this, but there’s speculation they may be able to get the votes.

I’m not convinced they have them yet, but time will tell.

Cha

(297,415 posts)
22. I hope those who are furloughed and
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:17 AM
Feb 2018

losing money know this.. and remember it when the elections come up again.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
3. Turning America into a third world shit hole
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:22 AM
Feb 2018

is the goal of the republican party!
-Cut educational funding
-Cut science
-Cut the safetynet for anyone that isn't rich
-destroy the Middle class

Drive this country into the ground.

SICK

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. is this the new normal?
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:23 AM
Feb 2018


I sure hope not. We need to remind those in Congress that we are both the BOSS and Customer of this Government. They work for us.

jalan48

(13,876 posts)
5. One of the conditions that led to Hitler's ascendance was the inability of the German
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:24 AM
Feb 2018

Parliament to get anything accomplished. The public was ready for a strongman that could make things happen.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
6. Woo hoo! So much winning it'll make your head spin!
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:27 AM
Feb 2018

Crash the stock market twice in one week. Shut down the government twice in a month.

Who is a big boy? Who deserves a military parade?

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
12. Hes just grandstanding for his followers.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:43 AM
Feb 2018

This is pure political theater, nothing more.

Oh, and I completely agree! He’s a hypocrite who voted for the tax bill which gives away hundreds of billions to corporations at the expense of the average citizens.

Fuck Rand Paul.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
13. That is his goal
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:45 AM
Feb 2018

Give it all to the rich and use shit like this to cut everything that helps everyone else.

Sick mindset

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
14. Yep.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:49 AM
Feb 2018

That’s been the basic Republican model of government my entire life. I’ve heard tell of a time before such was true, but personally I’m skeptical. I suspect they were just less obvious about it due to their electorate being less partisan than they are currently.

sprinkleeninow

(20,254 posts)
18. I feel it came to pass in a stealthy manner.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:02 AM
Feb 2018

They've been at it for decades, but now it's 'IN YOUR FACES!'

No bones made about their scheme today.
No apologies.
No compunction or remorse.
No hesitation.

💙🇺🇸💪🗽

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
19. And, no accountability from their voters.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:15 AM
Feb 2018

They appear to be able to get away with all of this now and retain their base followers no matter what. It defies all logic.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
32. So True
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 09:32 AM
Feb 2018

Yet he thinks he should lecture the rest of us. Can you imagine if PBO put a bill like this forth? It'll take another Dem president to sort this out which is the trap they set for Dems.



dweller

(23,647 posts)
15. yesss...
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:51 AM
Feb 2018

I'm sleeping in a little later in the morning

not a govt employee, just resting a bit knowing the tangeranus is neutered temporarily...

✌🏼️

haele

(12,663 posts)
21. I'm almost thinking this is a GOP ploy
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:46 AM
Feb 2018

To cut the Government pay period down to a 9-day/72 hour work-week. First the last pay period, now this pay period. Is someone thinking this would be a savings to the Government?

They'll probably have something ready to sign Monday morning.

Haele

struggle4progress

(118,319 posts)
25. Rand Paul objection forces shutdown
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:53 AM
Feb 2018

by LEIGH ANN CALDWELL

WASHINGTON — Congress failed to pass a government funding bill before a midnight deadline, shutting down non-essential government services for at least the remainder of the night until the House can vote whether to approve a compromise bill passed by the Senate early Friday.

Shortly after 1:30 a.m. ET, the Senate voted, 71-28, to approve a two-year spending bill that would reopen the government if passed by the House, which was expected to take it up after 4 a.m. ET.

The Senate vote came only after Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., used a procedural tactic to block the Senate from meeting its deadline while he spoke for hours about his objections to new government spending. The stunt forced government agencies to begin shutting down for the second time this year ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/congress-readies-vote-budget-deal-hoping-avoid-shutdown-n845961

struggle4progress

(118,319 posts)
26. Senate approves budget deal, too late to avert shutdown
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:55 AM
Feb 2018

David Morgan, Amanda Becker, Richard Cowan

... The Senate’s approval of the budget and stopgap funding package meant it will go next to the House of Representatives, where lawmakers were divided along party lines and passage was uncertain.

House Republican leaders on Thursday had offered assurances that the package would be approved, but so did Senate leaders and the critical midnight deadline, when current government funding authority expired, was still missed.

The reason for that was a nine-hour, on-again, off-again Senate floor speech by Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul, who objected to deficit spending in the bill.

The unexpected turn of events dragged the Senate proceedings into the wee hours and underscored the persistent inability of Congress and Trump to deal efficiently with Washington’s most basic fiscal obligations of keeping the government open ...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-shutdown/senate-approves-budget-deal-too-late-to-avert-shutdown-idUSKBN1FS232

struggle4progress

(118,319 posts)
27. Senate votes to reopen the government, sending budget deal to the House
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:58 AM
Feb 2018

By Phil Mattingly and Tal Kopan, CNN
Updated 2:15 AM ET, Fri February 9, 2018

... In the early hours of Friday morning, the Senate approved a two-year budget deal that would re-open the federal government, sending the plan to the House of Representatives -- where it faces a tougher vote.

The vote was 71-28 ...

Though the massive budget deal and government funding package still was expected to pass by Friday morning, congressional negotiators were scrambling all day Thursday to lock in enough votes in the House. And that was before Paul, a Republican, made public his dissatisfaction with the deal -- which would raise government spending, avert a government shutdown and lift the debt ceiling.

Paul took to the Senate floor many times Thursday refusing to agree to move up the time for a vote in the chamber on the bill, which requires unanimous consent from all 100 senators. In doing so, Paul forced the vote procedurally to occur after 1 a.m. ET on Friday, after government funding expired ...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/08/politics/budget-vote-congress-shutdown/index.html

Kablooie

(18,637 posts)
28. And they are still the best government leaders that money can buy.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 04:05 AM
Feb 2018

Maybe if we buy them with Rubles we'd get our money's worth.

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