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UTUSN

(70,719 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:18 PM Feb 2018

Joy BEHAR's best zinger *ever* - zapped it at Megan McCAIN -NOW ALL HADES BROKE OUT!1

Last edited Sat Feb 10, 2018, 02:00 PM - Edit history (3)

They were on the spousal abuse dude in SHITLER's mob - the two+ instances, how he failed at security clearance yet given full access, how could KELLY NOT know, etc.

McCAIN started to give her spin, was going to make spousal abuse a non-partisan topic, saying, "As a Republican I'm offended by..."

And Joy broke in with:

"As a Democrat, *I'm* OFFENDED BY REPUBLICANS!1"


After a minute of back and forth, ALL HADES broke out!1 McCAIN went into her usual not-taking-crap-about-being-a-Repuke thing with the wingnut fury not seen since HASSELHOFF!

Methinks, La Megan ain't long for The View, and THANK YOU JOY FOR EVERYTHING FOR SO LONG!1tr

ON EDIT, Video&transcript, via DUer Amaryllis , post #40 :
http://www.eonline.com/news/912890/joy-behar-and-meghan-mccain-get-into-a-screaming-match-on-the-view
.... After a heavy sigh, Meghan said, "Well, you're offended by Republicans, so all Republicans, probably, and everywhere...(you're) offended by me sitting here—because I'm a Republican!"

"I'm offended by a party that backs a racist!" Joy shouted.

"Oh, my God!" Meghan said. Joy continued to spar with her co-host, saying, "Oh, come on! Oh, come on, Meghan! Seventy-two percent of the Republican Party thinks he's a good role model."

"I'm going on The Van Jones Show on Saturday and I was actually looking forward to talking about this in a way that is respectful and not being told that just because I'm a Republican I'm offending you," Meghan said. "We're not going to move the needle one way or the other just throwing out platitudes and hubris like that. I would like to have a real conversation about it."

"Oh, really?" Joy asked. "Oh, really?"

"I don't know why you're sitting here saying you're offended by all Republicans," Meghan said. "I'm trying to give you my perspective—" Cutting her off again, Joy said, "Because 72 percent of them are backing a racist and somebody who has abused women. That's why! That's why!"

"Do you know that my father was accused of being racist, and Mitt Romney was accused of being racist, and Jeb Bush was accused?" Meghan asked. Fired up, Joy replied, "Your father is not in the Republican Party of today, darling! Those people are not in today's Republican party." ....















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Joy BEHAR's best zinger *ever* - zapped it at Megan McCAIN -NOW ALL HADES BROKE OUT!1 (Original Post) UTUSN Feb 2018 OP
Rrepublicans are and really.have been the problem cilla4progress Feb 2018 #1
Don't forget fake christians Motley13 Feb 2018 #5
Yes, cilla4progress Feb 2018 #6
More often than not, they're the same thing. calimary Feb 2018 #35
Damn straight! Ligyron Feb 2018 #36
Exactly!! C Moon Feb 2018 #21
+1, its false equivalency to say dems equally screw things up economically or socially uponit7771 Feb 2018 #39
I was in complete "WOW" mode, during that exchange Siwsan Feb 2018 #2
Especially Given. . . ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #3
And the animosity is still pervasive in the atmosphere Siwsan Feb 2018 #9
When You've Got Nothing, Play The Victim ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #11
Absolutely. Siwsan Feb 2018 #12
At least since the Nixon Administration Caliman73 Feb 2018 #15
Good Call ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #18
If her name was not McCain she never would avebury Feb 2018 #28
Yes! Ana Navarro! More Republicans should follow her lead. nt TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #31
Megan needs to take a leave of absence from the show maryellen99 Feb 2018 #4
Sadly...have to agree.. HipChick Feb 2018 #8
Me too. I'm sure her father has encouraged her to do her "thing" but she will regret it. hlthe2b Feb 2018 #10
I think you are right. She needs to spend time with her dad as he lives out the end of his life. anneboleyn Feb 2018 #19
Over twenty years negoldie Feb 2018 #43
Remember when her father called her mother a Cu-- in public years ago? Oppaloopa Feb 2018 #47
They've gotten away with their victimization schtick cilla4progress Feb 2018 #7
Is that today? Hasnt been on here yet. nolabear Feb 2018 #13
Flounce.. Spot on... LakeArenal Feb 2018 #16
I hope they do take her off the show, she's why I stopped watching. blueinredohio Feb 2018 #14
So Megan McCain pandr32 Feb 2018 #17
Clintons marital details were fair game... flibbitygiblets Feb 2018 #25
surely, by this time meghan, you have realized that you cannot possibly win in a contest against Joy niyad Feb 2018 #20
She brings nothing to the show kimbutgar Feb 2018 #22
She is using her name since she obviously lacks talent, BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #45
Some zingers just write themselves world wide wally Feb 2018 #23
Dem leaning shows have to stop giving Republicans a platform. If I see Jim Jordan Pepsidog Feb 2018 #24
"Methinks, La Megan ain't long for The View" left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #26
Bookmarking for later. Tipperary Feb 2018 #27
her time is up Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #29
Methinks we could use Joy Behar in congress rurallib Feb 2018 #30
Joy B is great. Her bluntness is what is absolutely needed today. jalan48 Feb 2018 #32
I don't think Porter was given FULL access. He was given access he shouldn't have had, Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #33
i recall when her father was running for president barbtries Feb 2018 #34
Thank you I just wrote that . Oppaloopa Feb 2018 #48
Joy, I watched the show today (all of it)....and loved how you responded onecent Feb 2018 #37
Anyone got the video on line. Fast youtube +the view didn't have it. irisblue Feb 2018 #38
Here: Amaryllis Feb 2018 #40
THANKS, it's even better with the vid&transcript, am incorporating it into the O.P.!1 UTUSN Feb 2018 #42
The other day someone on the panel asked her what her father would say betsuni Feb 2018 #41
I saw that. She uses Daddy when it benefits her. The View definitely blew it by hiring her. Doremus Feb 2018 #53
i was watching orleans Feb 2018 #44
The question should be "Which Republican Party?" LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #46
How about how Kelly attacked Frederica S. Wilson and LIED about what she said at that FBI building.. George II Feb 2018 #49
+1 lunasun Feb 2018 #52
There's one point where Joy Behar & I disagree. When she said, catbyte Feb 2018 #50
Who in the H E L L is Meghan McCain to have ANYTHING to say on NATIONAL Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #51

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
1. Rrepublicans are and really.have been the problem
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:23 PM
Feb 2018

For a very long time.

Their fake "deficits suck" stance under democratic presidents, is a real giveaway, given how they embrace.them when they are in power.

They are fake patriots, fake conservatives, even.

I suppose there are good Rs amongst them, but as a political party they stink.


Siwsan

(26,281 posts)
2. I was in complete "WOW" mode, during that exchange
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:24 PM
Feb 2018

I'm pretty sick and tired of Meghan and her self-victimization routine.

And, strangely, I'm not finding Nancy Grace to be nearly as odious as usual. Maybe the whole Meghan vibe is mitigating the Nancy effect.

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
3. Especially Given. . .
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:26 PM
Feb 2018

. . .her credentials have more to do with her family name than any actual accomplishments.

It's fake stridency to be the "other side" on that show.

Siwsan

(26,281 posts)
9. And the animosity is still pervasive in the atmosphere
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:41 PM
Feb 2018

Joy is not backing down with her scathingly brilliant zingers, and Meghan continues to play the poor, put upon conservative.

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
11. When You've Got Nothing, Play The Victim
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:42 PM
Feb 2018

That's really the whole conservative pundit schtick, isn't it?

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
15. At least since the Nixon Administration
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:50 PM
Feb 2018

I think that the Nixon Administration is where the whole "The world is against us, but we are right" mentality was really solidified. Nixon battling it out with the Press, along with Wormtongue Roger Ailes in his ear about GOPTv. They started to make a sacrament out of the "silent majority", these poor put upon conservatives that have to watch Christianity have equal footing with other religious traditions and atheism. Whites actually having to have an equal playing field with minorities, Men with women, etc...

Conservatives have been the victims of oppression (in their minds) forever. The sad reality however, is that while conservatives may try to stop progress, they never will as change is inevitable. They are only victims of their own narrow minds.

ProfessorGAC

(65,111 posts)
18. Good Call
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:55 PM
Feb 2018

Might even go back to W. Wilkie, who did the "put upon by the New Dealers" routine. But, certainly that happened during the late 60's, as you say.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
28. If her name was not McCain she never would
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:35 PM
Feb 2018

have been given the gig. With her dad as sick as he is it would be tough for them to throw her off the show.

I wish that they had given the conservative slot to Ana Navarro.

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
4. Megan needs to take a leave of absence from the show
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:29 PM
Feb 2018

And spend time with her dad who probably won’t make it to Spring.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
19. I think you are right. She needs to spend time with her dad as he lives out the end of his life.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:04 PM
Feb 2018

This is something that will be very important to her later. No doubt her father’s failing health also puts her under a lot of stress too.

negoldie

(198 posts)
43. Over twenty years
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:37 PM
Feb 2018

ago my mother made the decision that she was just too tired to make the 120 mile round trip to dialysis three times a week. She was ready. The family gathered, we took turns trying to sleep. After the sixth day she was in a coma and died the next day. My point.......oh how I wish I had recorded her stories. Like this one: My father bringing her to meet his parents and how they didn't take a liking to her, how dad didn't want her to work but gave in because of us five kids......just all kinds of stories I hadn't heard. Alas, no one in our family was thinking all that clearly and her stories will have to live on in our memories. Oh how I wish I had recorded those last days.....to your point regarding these last days, quoting you that it "will be very important to her later" is so very true. I personally thinks she's selfish, and is only thinking of herself.

cilla4progress

(24,756 posts)
7. They've gotten away with their victimization schtick
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:35 PM
Feb 2018

For far too long.

It's like there's this unspoken mantra that we Dems are smarter, more educated and enlightened, and that this is therefore an unfair advantage, for which we owe them a few.clear shots!

nolabear

(41,989 posts)
13. Is that today? Hasnt been on here yet.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:45 PM
Feb 2018

Lord, she’s a brat. There are people in this world you just want to flounce on out of here and she’s one.

pandr32

(11,595 posts)
17. So Megan McCain
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 12:54 PM
Feb 2018

You think this is a non-partisan topic? Who do you think is putting all these abusers, liars, Russian mob wannabes, racists and criminals in the White House anyway?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
25. Clintons marital details were fair game...
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:23 PM
Feb 2018

IF the Obama's ever had the slightest marital issue, you better believe it would be politicized. Remember the "terrorist fist bump" for Gods sake?

But giving cover to a serial wife beater, oh THAT'S off limits eh? Fuck off, Meghan.

niyad

(113,485 posts)
20. surely, by this time meghan, you have realized that you cannot possibly win in a contest against Joy
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 01:21 PM
Feb 2018

you are so far out of your depth there.

as a republican???? how about AS A WOMAN, as a human being, you are offended by all the sexual assaults and domestic violence against women? PERIOD.

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
22. She brings nothing to the show
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:00 PM
Feb 2018

All she delivers Is Fox talking points. The conservative Jebbidah before her was way better.

BigmanPigman

(51,615 posts)
45. She is using her name since she obviously lacks talent,
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 11:04 PM
Feb 2018

is insipid, and is a colossal bore. To go up against an intelligent person like Joy is incredibly naive or stupid, or both. In the words of her Fuhrer, "You're FIRED!".

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
24. Dem leaning shows have to stop giving Republicans a platform. If I see Jim Jordan
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:16 PM
Feb 2018

again spewing his bullshit on another MSNBC show I will vomit.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
26. "Methinks, La Megan ain't long for The View"
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 02:23 PM
Feb 2018

Nah ~ she's been playing the pity card a long time.

Repeatedly on the verge of tears about how the other members of 'The View' don't respect Trump
and how she has to 'explain' his policies.

The funniest comment I heard her make a few weeks ago was when she said:
"Most people view me as a moderate,
but I'm pro-life and 2nd amendment."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. I don't think Porter was given FULL access. He was given access he shouldn't have had,
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:09 PM
Feb 2018

but I thought I heard that he'd not been given FULL access, since he didn't have security clearance for it. ???

Altho it wouldn't surprise me if he had been given full access, since the WH is currently so corrupt and unethical and doesn't care about the security of the country.

barbtries

(28,808 posts)
34. i recall when her father was running for president
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 03:11 PM
Feb 2018

about how it was leaked that he had referred to his wife as the c word in front of others. i imagine he had his abusive moments.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
37. Joy, I watched the show today (all of it)....and loved how you responded
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

to McCain.....

She needs to go....I can't stand her pouty face every afternoon ....I figured she would walk off of this one.


GOOD FOR YOU....

betsuni

(25,566 posts)
41. The other day someone on the panel asked her what her father would say
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 08:13 PM
Feb 2018

about the topic and she got snippy, said she had her own opinion separate from her father or husband, but she's ALWAYS talking about her father. That was rude. She used to insist she didn't like Trump because he was mean to her father, but she gets that sour look on her face every time Trump's criticized and jumps in to do the false equivalency.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
53. I saw that. She uses Daddy when it benefits her. The View definitely blew it by hiring her.
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:41 PM
Feb 2018

Typical repuke, she's so nasty! Hardline this, hardline that. But if it's her pet project or friend, then it's all good.

I've noticed Joy is not as funny with that nasty person on the panel. She's so busy refuting the crap MM spews that she can't put her comedic spin on anything. Look what happened when she tried to laugh about the absurdity of Kelly's supposed ignorance of the wife beater. McCain took her head off.

orleans

(34,067 posts)
44. i was watching
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 10:41 PM
Feb 2018

i didn't think megan would be there after the break. but surprise. she stuck around.

i wonder what she was going to say...
"as a republican i am offended..." (looks like she was saying "at" and maybe "the&quot

i was surprised at how spunky and back to normal joy seemed today. ever since she came back from having the flu i've thought she's been under the weather and rather unresponsive. today she was back in all her glory and kicked some ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=52&v=7kmlQnen7sE

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. How about how Kelly attacked Frederica S. Wilson and LIED about what she said at that FBI building..
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 10:02 AM
Feb 2018

...ceremony?

Video shows that she never said what he claimed she did. If she was white or a man would he have done the same? Probably not.

catbyte

(34,414 posts)
50. There's one point where Joy Behar & I disagree. When she said,
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:45 AM
Feb 2018

"Your father is not in the Republican Party of today, darling! Those people are not in today's Republican party." ....

Au contraire. They absolutely ARE in "today's Republican party." McCain voted for the tax scam. McCain voted with Cheeto Benito 95% of the time, and so did the other so-called"moderate" or "sane" republicans.

Meghan McCain is lying to herself and the rest of us when she claims that she doesn't support what today's Republican party stands for. Her arguments against what's happening are anemic at best and disingenuous and dishonest at worst.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
51. Who in the H E L L is Meghan McCain to have ANYTHING to say on NATIONAL
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 11:51 AM
Feb 2018

fucking television?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk

When she says she is looking forward to talking to Van Jones about this, who the FUCK cares what YOU think

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