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Maraya1969

(22,489 posts)
3. Yeah I know. I wonder what would happen if one of our Democratic congress
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 07:14 PM
Feb 2018

people brought that up and asked to add it to the wall bill.

Republicans would be faced with their racist ideas brought to the surface for all to see.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Skilled Norwegians who speak English and take good jobs.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:07 PM
Feb 2018

No resentment expressed here against our amigos del norte, just pointing out the outrageous hypocrisy raging on the right.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
2. Why aren't they rounding up the illegal Irish in Boston
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 07:14 PM
Feb 2018

Who came in during their civil unrest? Most of those really are BAD HOMBRES. They did not come here because they are nice people. They are pretty white though...

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
5. While I agree that 45's stupid southern wall is about racism/bigotry...
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 07:26 PM
Feb 2018

IME Canadians aren't exactly risking life and limb to get into this country so a northern border wall would be mostly to keep all of the Americans wanting to escape Trump's Ununited States in.

Actually I'm pretty sure Trump and his ignorant bigoted followers would probably love it if all Democrats/Liberals moved to Canada... until the US came to a screeching halt and crashed due to our absence.

Maraya1969

(22,489 posts)
6. My father snuck in here from Canada. No Visa, Green Card etc.
Fri Feb 9, 2018, 09:25 PM
Feb 2018

I was a baby when someone helped him be in this country legally.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. Oh I'm sure there have been exceptions...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:40 PM
Feb 2018

and for a variety of reasons, but from studies I've read and in talking to Canadian friends and my newly discovered bio family I'm still probably correct in saying that they're not exactly risking life and limb to get into this country at this point.

OTOH I have known and know if those who have, or would, move to Canada in a heartbeat if feasable. I'm one of them.

Your father was lucky to have had help to become legal. Decades ago the border and immigration rules were more lax if I remember correctly. You said you were a baby, did he come here to be with you than?

Maraya1969

(22,489 posts)
11. No, he came her because of the "American Dream". I think he could have
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:48 PM
Feb 2018

become legal earlier than the several years later after he married my mother and had my brother and then me but I asked my mother why they didn't do anything and she said they were afraid. He lied to get a Social Security card so maybe that is why.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
14. True. I have a friend who's a Canadian 'overstay' although...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:33 PM
Feb 2018

She'd prefer to live in Canada. Unfortunately she married an American veteran and he flipped from wanting to live in Canada to wanting to live in the US. He promised they'd get her a green card, they came back, brought a young Canadian child from her first marriage too, had they had a child together and figured it would be okay somehow. She wants to go back to Canada but he won't go and refuses to let the youngest go and visit. (He uses this to control her because he knows she wont leave her child behind. I did some reading and this type of case is sadly a bit too common and IMO needs to be fixed with a revamp to immigration laws.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. It's pretty obvious
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Feb 2018

Despite the fact that illegal immigration is way, way down at the border, they think a wall will stop anyone. It won't and there are lots of issues with the wall. When Bush was coming up with his border fence, it actually left lots of people in the "no man's land" on the wrong side. Back in the 60's, the channelized the Rio Grande to stop it changing courses (and thus, changing the border). Now we steal Mexico's water and the river mostly doesn't go to the sea.

Listen to this podcast.

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/border-wall/

In Brownsville, Texas, for instance, some American citizens living on the U.S. side of the actual border live in houses on the southern side of the border fence. If the fence followed the Rio Grande, it would be a winding affair, but a straight line is easier to build. And even trying to follow a river can been complicated at times, because rivers can move.


Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
15. If he is serious about his "muslim ban," he
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:51 PM
Feb 2018

Should consider it because their immigration program is much more open than ours. They even let Syrians in!

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