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These people are basically living on another planet. (Original Post) MrScorpio Feb 2018 OP
circles are your friends Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #1
He wasn't even in the country 1784-89. If you hear thier lies remember this lunasun Feb 2018 #2
That's why when he got home from Paris he asked "what did I miss?" hedda_foil Feb 2018 #3
Madison sent a letter to him in Paris before it went to states to be ratified lunasun Feb 2018 #4
He did indeed. That's why the song is so funny. hedda_foil Feb 2018 #5

lunasun

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2. He wasn't even in the country 1784-89. If you hear thier lies remember this
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 05:56 PM
Feb 2018

Jefferson was abroad from August 1784 through November 1789. He maintained steady correspondence with James Madison, who would become known as the "Father of the Constitution." Historians say Jefferson indirectly may have influenced Madison’s political thinking when, in 1785, he shipped to his friend almost 200 books from Paris on government, philosophy, religion and other subjects. Madison delved deeply into the books.

But when it came to forming a government, Jefferson and Madison were miles apart in thought and distance.
Jefferson opposed the creation of a strong central government; Madison supported it.

Jefferson played many leading roles in history, including as author of the Declaration of Independence, president of the United States, and founder of the University of Virginia.
But in the production of the Constitution, Jefferson didn’t even make a cameo appearance. He was in France during the entirety of the Constitutional Convention in 1787, shut out from the top-secret deliberations. When he returned to the U.S. in 1789, the Constitution had been ratified, a president was in office, and the 1st Congress was open for business.
Historians say Jefferson, at most, deserves a footnote at the end of the credits for sending books from abroad that may have influenced Madison’s thinking.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
4. Madison sent a letter to him in Paris before it went to states to be ratified
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:28 PM
Feb 2018

But it was in Oct. 1787 - a month after the convention had agreed on a constitution and adjourned

By 1789 before the time he returned that year , the Bill of Rights had been approved, but was not yet ratified yet by his return
He missed a lot !

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