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Mister Ed

(5,934 posts)
8. There's an extreme and often violent far-right element who call themselves "Sovereign Citizens"...
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:16 PM
Feb 2018

...and believe that the only legitimate governmental authority is a local sheriff.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
10. Beauregard is a little racist squint and less lawyer than my beagle
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:08 PM
Feb 2018

but has he ever shown any interest in the Sovereign Citizen movement? Are we sure he isn't talking about something else?

Mister Ed

(5,934 posts)
12. He might just be saying nice things about sheriffs to a roomful of sheriffs.
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:09 AM
Feb 2018

It might not be a dog-whistle. I can't tell for sure.

walkingman

(7,620 posts)
3. This entire Trump cabinet is full of racist fools. And yet the GOP stands firmly behind them.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 09:51 PM
Feb 2018

Hopefully 2018 will be the beginning of a reckoning. We deserve better than this.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
7. Because congressional republikkklans ARE racists, and
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:15 PM
Feb 2018

represent racist America...have for decades! Any decent person left in white supremacist party aka republikkklan party should leave now...if not, then you stand with hate policies, hate propaganda and lies towards non white, non christian, lgbt, Americans, immigrants and refugees, and all women; policies that hurt the sick, poor, disabled--the most vulnerable among us.

What did God say to Lot? "Find me
one good person and I'll spare them all," lot found not one..

AJT

(5,240 posts)
5. The office of sherrif is the only law enforcement the
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:07 PM
Feb 2018

white supremacist "sovereign citizens" recognize. There are a number of sherrifs that are members of the sovereign citizens. I am guessing he's talking to them.

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
13. If he were not such a racist pig, he could talk about English Common Law that goes back centuries...
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 04:39 AM
Feb 2018

...and have some credibility when he references our "Anglo-American heritage."

In point of fact, we DO derive our laws largely from England. Under, for instance, Napoleonic Law, if a person is arrested, they are presumed guilty. If they were not guilty, the reasoning goes, why would the gendarmes have arrested them in the first place? I believe Mexico also has a version of Napoleonic Law.

In both Britain and America, there is supposed to be a supposition of innocence, and it is up to the court system to prove that the defendant is guilty. No matter how often we fail, that supposition of "innocent until proven guilty" is bedrock to our legal system.

Believe me, it is not like that in the rest of the world. Be glad of our Anglo-American heritage in the law, even if it is a racist talking about it.

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