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there have been 18 school shooting in the ENTIRE world in the last 10 YEARS (Original Post) gopiscrap Feb 2018 OP
I guess that makes us number ONE! lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #1
shooting johnmont Feb 2018 #2
Make America great again! First Speaker Feb 2018 #3
Link? Wednesdays Feb 2018 #4
But we're part of the entire world, so something is off with this math. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #5
There have not been 18 school shootings in the USA in 45 days oberliner Feb 2018 #6
Everytown for Gun Safety has revised the number to 17 by their definition OhioBlue Feb 2018 #7
I think to most people "school shooting" means something like what happened in Florida or Sandy Hook oberliner Feb 2018 #8
There have not been 18 school shootings unless you use a ridiculously dishonest criteria Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #9

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
4. Link?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 01:18 AM
Feb 2018

Not that I don't believe you, but I want to pass this on and people will be asking me for a source.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. There have not been 18 school shootings in the USA in 45 days
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:15 AM
Feb 2018

I believe there have been 5 - which is awful enough.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
7. Everytown for Gun Safety has revised the number to 17 by their definition
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:36 AM
Feb 2018

of a "school shooting" which is a firearm discharged a live round in or at a school building or on school grounds.

The number 5 refers to the number of intention shootings during school hours in which someone was injured or killed.

3 more were intentional and during school hours but didn't harm anyone

2 were accidental, one with a police officer's weapon and one with an armed guard's weapon.

7 were outside of normal school hours.

I'm not sure how I feel about the statistic. No matter how you look at it, it is horrific. One is horrific. The headline/meme does imply something different than when you look at the underlying definition and data and it is something else that I think adds crap to the discussion because people are now trying to defend the statistic after posting the meme on FB... On the other hand, I do see the point that students can be traumatized even if no one was harmed or a shooting/discharge of a firearm happened outside of school hours. I'm pretty sure all of them would cause lock down during hours and probably even the ones after hours if the next day was a school day.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no-there-havent-been-18-school-shooting-in-2018-that-number-is-flat-wrong/2018/02/15/65b6cf72-1264-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html?utm_term=.3fc62d97a824

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. I think to most people "school shooting" means something like what happened in Florida or Sandy Hook
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:21 AM
Feb 2018

Using that expanded definition is not helpful, in my opinion.

As you said, one is horrific (and five even more so).

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
9. There have not been 18 school shootings unless you use a ridiculously dishonest criteria
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:37 AM
Feb 2018

If you look at the facts behind that number it’s patently dishonest.

A person who pulls into a random parking lot that happens to be a school and commits suicide in their car in the middle of the night is not a “school shooting”.

A kid who manages to reach into the holster of a cops gun and pull the trigger isn’t an”school shooting” (but it’s a sign that department was totally negligent in choosing holsters, that shouldn’t be possible).

Everytown intentionally uses the most absurdly broad definition of “school shooting” as possible to create those misleading headlines, and people blindly repeat them without bothering to learn the facts. They will count it as a “school shooting” if a gang shooting happens outside a school, or of a police pursuit chases a car into an empty school parking lot on a summer night and shots are fired. In one of ten examples they used to reach the “18” total this year it was on school property- of a school that had been closed for 7 months, had no student or staff and was waiting to be sold or demolished.

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