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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthere have been 18 school shooting in the ENTIRE world in the last 10 YEARS
yet 18 school shootings in the USA in 45 days
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)yeah... USA USA USA
johnmont
(42 posts)That's because America is insane about guns!
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)Wednesdays
(17,380 posts)Not that I don't believe you, but I want to pass this on and people will be asking me for a source.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I believe there have been 5 - which is awful enough.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)of a "school shooting" which is a firearm discharged a live round in or at a school building or on school grounds.
The number 5 refers to the number of intention shootings during school hours in which someone was injured or killed.
3 more were intentional and during school hours but didn't harm anyone
2 were accidental, one with a police officer's weapon and one with an armed guard's weapon.
7 were outside of normal school hours.
I'm not sure how I feel about the statistic. No matter how you look at it, it is horrific. One is horrific. The headline/meme does imply something different than when you look at the underlying definition and data and it is something else that I think adds crap to the discussion because people are now trying to defend the statistic after posting the meme on FB... On the other hand, I do see the point that students can be traumatized even if no one was harmed or a shooting/discharge of a firearm happened outside of school hours. I'm pretty sure all of them would cause lock down during hours and probably even the ones after hours if the next day was a school day.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/no-there-havent-been-18-school-shooting-in-2018-that-number-is-flat-wrong/2018/02/15/65b6cf72-1264-11e8-8ea1-c1d91fcec3fe_story.html?utm_term=.3fc62d97a824
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Using that expanded definition is not helpful, in my opinion.
As you said, one is horrific (and five even more so).
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)If you look at the facts behind that number its patently dishonest.
A person who pulls into a random parking lot that happens to be a school and commits suicide in their car in the middle of the night is not a school shooting.
A kid who manages to reach into the holster of a cops gun and pull the trigger isnt anschool shooting (but its a sign that department was totally negligent in choosing holsters, that shouldnt be possible).
Everytown intentionally uses the most absurdly broad definition of school shooting as possible to create those misleading headlines, and people blindly repeat them without bothering to learn the facts. They will count it as a school shooting if a gang shooting happens outside a school, or of a police pursuit chases a car into an empty school parking lot on a summer night and shots are fired. In one of ten examples they used to reach the 18 total this year it was on school property- of a school that had been closed for 7 months, had no student or staff and was waiting to be sold or demolished.