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chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 08:21 AM Feb 2018

It's Very Simple

Why can't we have sensible gun control? = NRA $

Why can't we have single payer health care? = Insurance $

Why can't we have reasonable drug prices = Big Pharma $

Why can't we have free college tuition? = Bank lending institution $

Why can't we have more green energy? = Big Oil $

Why can't we cut the obscene military budget? = Defense Related $

NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL WE GET OUTSIDE $ OUT OF OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM! Movetoamend.org.

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It's Very Simple (Original Post) chuckstevens Feb 2018 OP
You nailed it! vlyons Feb 2018 #1
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Feb 2018 #2
K&R genxlib Feb 2018 #3
K&R PJMcK Feb 2018 #4
Amen! The corrosive effects of "Citizen's United" and the GOP is run amok... Moostache Feb 2018 #5
salaries for congress Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #15
Because in each case, there are wealthy lobbyists sayin, "no, you can't world wide wally Feb 2018 #6
There you go again... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #7
Please remember and remind everyone, TNNurse Feb 2018 #8
How does Russia finally conquer the USA? $ Pobeka Feb 2018 #9
+1, CU opened the flood gates to outside money in these campaigns uponit7771 Feb 2018 #10
That's the way I see it too. Pobeka Feb 2018 #16
don't forget tobacco money, high fructose corn syrup money, and more NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #11
Most Americans in both parties favor BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #12
He couldn't buy two packages of Sudafed, yet had easy access to high powered weapons. alarimer Feb 2018 #13
+++++ heaven05 Feb 2018 #14
Well said! PatSeg Feb 2018 #17
I agree with all except #4 cab67 Feb 2018 #18
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #19
Too true. BaileyBill Feb 2018 #20
well I do not want free college tuition hfojvt Feb 2018 #21
Extremely coherent post. byronius Feb 2018 #22

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. Amen! The corrosive effects of "Citizen's United" and the GOP is run amok...
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:54 AM
Feb 2018

Do not forget this though...the number of Millionaires in Congress is STAGGERING...on both sides of the aisle...when the make up of the Congress better reflects the economic reality of the population, THEN, and only then, will we begin to see real change in our policies...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,347 posts)
15. salaries for congress
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:33 AM
Feb 2018

Be it amended:

That each member of Congress shall be paid an annual salary equal to the median annual income of the citizens residing in the district that said member represents,

And that each member of Congress shall receive non-salary compensation no greater than the average of such compensation paid to the citizens living within the district said member represents in Congress.

Want more money? Do something to raise the median income in your district.

Want more benefits? Get 'em for your voters.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
8. Please remember and remind everyone,
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:03 AM
Feb 2018

our government officials (maybe not all but too many) work for the people who pay them the most. They do not work for those who elected them.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
9. How does Russia finally conquer the USA? $
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
Feb 2018

Much cheaper now to buy politicians than to pay for a military war.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
16. That's the way I see it too.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:35 AM
Feb 2018

If you are looking for the most dangerous conspiracy to our democracy, it would be that Russia was also behind Citizen's United in coordination with the GOP. Regardless of Russia's involvement in CU, they have certainly used it to their advantage to take control of our country, along with not-so well disguised monely laundering...

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
11. don't forget tobacco money, high fructose corn syrup money, and more
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:11 AM
Feb 2018

Big money/lobbying is ruining our lives (not to mention what Citizens United brought on)

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
12. Most Americans in both parties favor
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:14 AM
Feb 2018

affordable health care, gun restriction, DACA, pro choice, Climate Change reality, etc yet these issues are labeled as incorrectly as only Dem issues. When the majority of Americans are in favor of these then the GOP is NOT representing Americans. They are using Dems as the scape goat to continue lying. They represent only one group, that group is the NRA, Religious Right and Russian who are regular donors to the GOP election campaigns
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/the-nra-is-part-of-the-trumprussia-scandal-now.html
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-trump-russia-nra-connection-heres-what-you-need-to-know-w515615

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
13. He couldn't buy two packages of Sudafed, yet had easy access to high powered weapons.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:19 AM
Feb 2018

Maybe a work around is to ban ammunition, or tax the hell out of it. I also think all gun owners need to carry insurance, to pay into a victims' fund that would pay medical expenses. Because the survivors will have life-long injuries, in many cases severe.

We live in an absurd world where it is harder to get allergy medicine than guns.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. +++++
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:26 AM
Feb 2018

This is absolute truth and I'll add a scum sucking potus enabling these slaughters by signing into law measures that are profit for his campaign contributors and death to innocent children...

cab67

(2,993 posts)
18. I agree with all except #4
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
Feb 2018

The ever decreasing level of state support is the primary reason public colleges/universities are expensive.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
21. well I do not want free college tuition
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:31 AM
Feb 2018

I already have two worthless degrees.

We have more green energy now than at any time in the past - I am fairly sure.

One reason we can't have free college tuition is that a lot of people do not want to pay higher taxes. The same is probably true for single payer, except many have little idea how much insurance is costing them (or don't care), probably because the savings will not come back to them.

For example, working full time for my employer I would get health insurance for free. My employer pays something like $800 a month (and for married couples or families they pay substantially more (so much for equal pay for equal work)) for that health insurance. So if we switch to single payer which costs, say, $500 a month in taxes, that is a net savings of $300 a month. Except who is gonna pay the taxes? Unless my employer pays them, I am out money, because the $800 a month they save is not going to come back to me in extra pay. I suspect many, if not most, Americans are already in a place where their health care is heavily subsidized by their employers, and it is they, the people, who do not wanna pay more to help other people who are not so lucky.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
22. Extremely coherent post.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 06:36 PM
Feb 2018

And as for the anti-tax crew, FTS. Ridiculous. It's a false duality.

This country boomed when the highest marginal tax rate was 90%. The wealthy have too much money. If this was not the case, they couldn't afford to buy the politicians that tilt the playing field toward their greedy maws.

There's more than enough money to do everything. The problem is the Hoarding Religion. It's infected everything.

Living simply is good. Living simply is healthy. Gold toilets and fifteen houses when people beg for food in the streets?

Stupid and cruel and a recipe for misery for everyone.

We're so Slow.

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