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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe most common gun law of late 1800s America was a ban on concealed firearms.
Neither of those arguments for an unrestricted right to possess personal firearms hold up under scrutiny of historical analysis, even though the early states-rights and anti-federalist movements promulgated them at the founding of our nation, just as their ideological descendants the far right propagate them today as if they comprised a consensus of the Founders and Framers who, in fact, deliberately rejected such individualistic emphasis in favor of a collectivist one.
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The most common gun law of late 1800s America was a ban on concealed firearms. According to gun rights historian Clayton Cramer, concealed carry prohibitions were among the earliest types of gun control laws adopted in the years following the Revolution. The first such law was adopted in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, Indiana banned concealed carry in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839, and Ohio in 1859.
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In late-eighteenth-century parlance, bearing arms was a term of art with an obvious military and legal connotation. As a review of the Library of Congresss data base of congressional proceedings in the revolutionary and early national periods reveals, the thirty uses of bear arms and bearing arms in bills, statutes, and debates of the Continental, Confederation, and United States Congresses between 1774 and 1821 invariably occur in a context exclusively focused on the army or the militia. H. Richard Uviller & William G. Merkel (2003), The Militia and the Right to Arms, Or, How the second Amendment Fell Silent
The term to bear arms comes from the Latin arma ferre, which means to carry military weapons into battle. To keep arms meant to stock them in armories. And the people referred to the collective population, not to individuals. The Framers clearly understood the use of these terms."
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SWBTATTReg
(22,130 posts)someone's DU post on guns, but didn't have this at hand. I know from a historical context that gun laws were in place in this country, but am glad to get this information!! Thanks so much!
Cha
(297,275 posts)turnitup
(94 posts)but that didn't stop anyone. There is no reason to sell A-15 rifles. I can see selling hunting rifles and guns for protection of one's home. There is no reason for a person who had the issues this man had to be walking the streets. Ronald Raygun did us a disservice when he closed down mental institutions.
My question today is why didn't people listen when they were told about this man? When he bragged about killing on his facebook, why didn't authorities do something? I heard he had pictures of dead animals, if that is true then that is a huge red flag. Why did it go unnoticed?
We are all looking to blame someone or something, when it is a multiple of reasons why this happened. I suspect we will find out as time goes on just what was going on in his head
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)But we can find out how he got the gun.
Igel
(35,317 posts)As for the odd misuse of the etymological fallacy, we'll leave that hairball alone.