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sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:05 AM Feb 2018

Do something today about gun violence in America: join Brady; Moms Demand Action

Moms Demand Action is a great grassroots org.
https://momsdemandaction.org



And the Brady Campaign is doing good work too.







Even better: call your congressperson and tell them you want an effective handgun ban, like Canada has.

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Do something today about gun violence in America: join Brady; Moms Demand Action (Original Post) sharedvalues Feb 2018 OP
You can also donate or join Gabby PAC, Everytown for Gun Safety, sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #1
+1. Violence Policy Center also doing good work. sharedvalues Feb 2018 #5
K and R oasis Feb 2018 #2
You should be aware Canada sarisataka Feb 2018 #3
Canada effectively bans handguns. Why spread falsehoods, and not engage on the main point? sharedvalues Feb 2018 #4
Because the falsehood is claiming handguns are banned. sarisataka Feb 2018 #6
Another falsehood is claiming Moms Demand Action is grassroots friendly_iconoclast Feb 2018 #7
Yes I did Skip mentioning that sarisataka Feb 2018 #8

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
1. You can also donate or join Gabby PAC, Everytown for Gun Safety,
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Feb 2018

Americans for Responsible Solutions. Or Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
4. Canada effectively bans handguns. Why spread falsehoods, and not engage on the main point?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:39 PM
Feb 2018

It's pretty much just officers involved in the "protection of life".

Two categories for handgun authorization
There are just two categories of individuals who are allowed an authorization to carry: those who require one because of their occupations and those who need one for the "protection of life." They need to get an authorization from the chief firearms officer for their province or territory.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-may-carry-handguns-in-canada-1.1135084



Feel free to split hairs, but MINISCULE numbers of people in Canada have handgun carry authroization. It's effectively a BAN.

And that is the point - Canada's effective handgun ban is THE REASON CANADIANS ARE NOT MURDERED WITH HANDGUNS.

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
6. Because the falsehood is claiming handguns are banned.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:58 PM
Feb 2018

In order to purchase and own a handgun a person nearly needs an RPAL which requires a 6 hour course.

Your article refers to carrying which is entirely separate from a ban. You are trying to claim that Canada's more restrictive carry requirements equates to a ban on ownership. That is false.

If the US were to adopt the Canadian licensing requirement for handguns would you
1- call that a ban even though it would not reduce handgun ownership 1iota?
2- expect it would reduce firearm homicides by any significant amount?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
7. Another falsehood is claiming Moms Demand Action is grassroots
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:23 PM
Feb 2018

They are entirely the creature of a billionaire and the former head of PR for Monsanto:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172133670

The disinterested reader will find the whataboutism in that thread illuminating...

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
8. Yes I did Skip mentioning that
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Feb 2018

And can attest with first-hand information it is false.

When they were claiming they handed out free gun locks I actually joined as a member so I could promote the program. I sent an email to their contact information on the page and the reply I received was - due to the large number of inquiries we cannot respond to individuals. Please contact your local chapter for more information.

I sent another email asking how do I contact my local chapter and received a message -due to the large number of inquiries we cannot respond to individuals. Please contact your local chapter for more information

I looked up a "local" group on Facebook. Their activities seem to mainly be reposting pictures and press releases from the national headquarters. I have reached out to them four times and have never received a reply. As far as I can tell they have not held a meeting or any other event in the two years since I have tried contacting them.

As best I can tell, they are a small PR firm

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