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POS Orange Shitgibbons blames FL shootings/deaths on the school....neighbors and other students.. (Original Post) HipChick Feb 2018 OP
Even if they had said something, what could they have done to stop this? He bought the gun Luciferous Feb 2018 #1
He is such an asshole. demmiblue Feb 2018 #2
Whats the point in reporting a deranged person with a lot of weapons? Girard442 Feb 2018 #3
+1, same thing I thought if it was just a matter of reporting people he'd be the uponit7771 Feb 2018 #17
There were so many signs that he is mentally ill malaise Feb 2018 #4
Vile disgusting response. gademocrat7 Feb 2018 #5
The way multiple ex wives and girlfriends told fbi of abuse ? JI7 Feb 2018 #6
What? Donnie was born without a compassion gene. And a common sense gene Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #7
Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses demmiblue Feb 2018 #8
I can understand this. Igel Feb 2018 #13
Is this a cry for help? Mrs. Ted Nancy Feb 2018 #9
"Menatlly disturbed". The MAGA hat pic on his Instagram sure as shit backs that up! n/t brewens Feb 2018 #10
Hold..wait...now he's going to blame it on the FBI.... HipChick Feb 2018 #11
His mom called the cops several times per reports GusBob Feb 2018 #12
So? Igel Feb 2018 #18
Are you telling me? GusBob Feb 2018 #20
Guess What? The Orange "Shitbag" doesn't know "The NRA Plan" to shut up for a while. Stuart G Feb 2018 #14
Such a horrid bastard uponit7771 Feb 2018 #15
Shut the fuck up, Donnie! Initech Feb 2018 #16
"Blame the victims." Liberal In Texas Feb 2018 #19
DJT said...Must always report such to authorities...again and again. Frustratedlady Feb 2018 #21

Luciferous

(6,080 posts)
1. Even if they had said something, what could they have done to stop this? He bought the gun
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:49 AM
Feb 2018

legally. Blaming the victims- he is such a piece of shit!

Girard442

(6,073 posts)
3. Whats the point in reporting a deranged person with a lot of weapons?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:51 AM
Feb 2018

They’ll never impeach him anyway.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
17. +1, same thing I thought if it was just a matter of reporting people he'd be the
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:35 AM
Feb 2018

... first person I'd report.

OP Worthy

JI7

(89,250 posts)
6. The way multiple ex wives and girlfriends told fbi of abuse ?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:54 AM
Feb 2018

And fbi warned and denied clearance but certain people ignored it ?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. What? Donnie was born without a compassion gene. And a common sense gene
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:54 AM
Feb 2018

among other things...

Nobody should even be surprised at this

demmiblue

(36,853 posts)
8. Trump Signs Bill Revoking Obama-Era Gun Checks for People With Mental Illnesses
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 09:56 AM
Feb 2018
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

Igel

(35,309 posts)
13. I can understand this.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:28 AM
Feb 2018

But you need to look at details.

There's mental illness that can lead to things like violence. A relative of mine listened to the voices and battered his mother, committed arson in his mother's house, then battered his brother before he was stopped. (The second time was easier: He attacked a cop. Well, his mother, then a bystander civilian, then the cop. Ended the same.)

Then there's "mental illness" like some kids in my class. They're autistic, but only slightly. Or like my mother was 5 years ago. She had early stage Alzheimer's. They don't deserve stigmatizing.

Then there's the idea that executive fiat can make substantive changes to law. I disliked that under Nixon when I was 13 and haven't changed my mind on this point. Even if I like a goal, you can only poke so many procedural holes in the Constitution before it's confetti, and it doesn't matter if the destruction is for immediate good or bad.

Mrs. Ted Nancy

(462 posts)
9. Is this a cry for help?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:00 AM
Feb 2018

That tweet could be construed to describe himself. Maybe the FBI should check into this.

I would put one of those sarcasm thingies here, but I am kind of serious.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
12. His mom called the cops several times per reports
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:23 AM
Feb 2018

His neighbors called the cops
A You tuber called the FBI

He better come up with a better NRA cover story

Igel

(35,309 posts)
18. So?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:37 AM
Feb 2018

The law defends civil rights of the mentally ill unless there's clear and convincing evidence he's a threat to himself or others Make a claim, and somebody has to evaluated the evidence, the time it takes, staffing, and likelihood of success before a judge.

One person's claim of threats don't cut it without something else.

Cops and FBI don't talk that closely.

It used to be easier to investigate. But, again, it was a civil rights issue, and, again, it's a question of individual rights vs society and how to balance the relative importance and application of individual constitution, civil, and human rights.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
20. Are you telling me?
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:08 AM
Feb 2018

Trump is the one who is saying report to authorities again again and again

my point is they were told again and again to no effect

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
14. Guess What? The Orange "Shitbag" doesn't know "The NRA Plan" to shut up for a while.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:33 AM
Feb 2018

See other thread going on now...."NRA Plan to shut up for a while ".....................why doesn't he know it?

He is too stupid to be let in on the.......... "NRA Plan"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210233574

Liberal In Texas

(13,553 posts)
19. "Blame the victims."
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:01 AM
Feb 2018

Obviously it was their fault, not that of this unstable nut who was able to own weapons of war.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
21. DJT said...Must always report such to authorities...again and again.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:20 AM
Feb 2018

My God, Trump, we've been reporting again and again, but the Repubs won't do anything about you. You should be removed from the Oval Office asap...no one is listening.

Get these damned monster guns off the streets and out of homes. No one needs them for hunting or any other activity. They are only used for carnage. To hell with target shooting or whatever else people say they use them for. They are mass killers. Why can't the Republicans understand? Congresscritters need to attend each one of these funerals and meet with the families. EACH ONE!

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