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Until Americans shut down the country and demand an immediate ban on assault rifles (Original Post) malaise Feb 2018 OP
That isn't going to happen, either. MichMary Feb 2018 #1
So....give up? Did Germany give up on reunification? This change pales in comparison. Of course Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #3
The majority of Americans support a bn on assault rifles malaise Feb 2018 #4
Not even close to factual. Bantamfancier Feb 2018 #6
I stand corrected about the number of members MichMary Feb 2018 #12
There is an important different between what people support and what they support ENOUGH brooklynite Feb 2018 #15
You got me curious so I did a little research fescuerescue Feb 2018 #16
Human made problems have inherent human made solutions LanternWaste Feb 2018 #7
I'm a realist MichMary Feb 2018 #14
Public needs to be more than swayed now. They need to b shocked to such action. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #2
+1,000 malaise Feb 2018 #5
"Shut down the country" brooklynite Feb 2018 #8
That's what they said before the women's marches malaise Feb 2018 #9
...which didn't "shut down the country". brooklynite Feb 2018 #10
Mass shootings are part of the political fabric malaise Feb 2018 #13
We HAVE to do something NOW! Greybnk48 Feb 2018 #11

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
1. That isn't going to happen, either.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:38 AM
Feb 2018

It's easy to blame the NRA, but--the NRA represents millions of actual people, who support gun ownership, who vote, and who donate.

Do you think the NRA prints its own $$$ to throw at the GOP? Of course not. It all comes from people who support the NRA because of what they do for them.

The truth is that the more talk there is about bans and confiscation, the more money the NRA will collect, and the more money will go into gun-friendly Congresspeople's coffers.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. So....give up? Did Germany give up on reunification? This change pales in comparison. Of course
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
Feb 2018

Of course something can be done beginning with shock and awe and tears coast to coast.

Bantamfancier

(366 posts)
6. Not even close to factual.
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:49 AM
Feb 2018

You do know there's only about 4 million dues paying members of the NRA?
And you do know that right at 74% of those members support mandatory background checks?
The fact is the NRA gets most of their money from the firearms industry.
It's not the members screaming for more guns, it's the guys who make them.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
12. I stand corrected about the number of members
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:15 AM
Feb 2018

and where the NRA gets its $$.

My b-i-l is an avid gun owner, hunter, target shooter, NRA member, and staunch supporter. I know that when I tried to discuss the issue with him years ago, he had an answer for every point I made. When he mentioned "collectors," I gave up arguing.

I respect his right to own his guns, and am well aware that not one of his (many) guns has ever hurt anyone. Nor have the vast majority of other guns or gun owners in the country.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
15. There is an important different between what people support and what they support ENOUGH
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:31 AM
Feb 2018

Many advocates of gun control do not care enough to make it their sole voting issue, and to contribute to an supporting organization.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
16. You got me curious so I did a little research
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:46 AM
Feb 2018

The gun industry does about $31 billion in revenue each year. Not a small chunk, but not the trillions I was guessing.

If the entire gun industry were a Fortune 500 company, that is all gun makers merged into one company, they would have to do $31billion in revenue right? That would put them as at #91 on the Fortune 500 list.

About the size of Rite Aid drug stores.

That got me wondering about how many gun manufacturers on the Fortune 500. Surprisingly, not a single one. The largest is Smith & Wesson at $1.2 billion. But to join the Fortune 500, you need $5.14 billion. (Yahoo by comparison is #498 at $5.16 billion). How about the Fortune 1000? Nope. You need $1.7 billion to displace Regis.

I don't think it's the gun industry that is running congress. They have at least 1000 other much more powerful masters. It think it's the NRA and NRA minded people.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. Human made problems have inherent human made solutions
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:53 AM
Feb 2018

Human made problems have inherent human made solutions.

But I get your narrative.... it's consistent and on-point today.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
14. I'm a realist
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 11:18 AM
Feb 2018

and the idea that across the country millions of people are going to take to the streets, shut down the country, and demand X, Y, or Z is simply unrealistic. I don't doubt that the vast majority supports an AWB, but probably not to the point where they will put their own livelihoods on the line for something they feel will never affect them.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
8. "Shut down the country"
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

I guess this will continue, since mega protests like that are not part of our political fabric, and never have been.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
9. That's what they said before the women's marches
Thu Feb 15, 2018, 10:56 AM
Feb 2018

Now they're simultaneous protests in several towns, cities and states

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