Finally, NRA proposes school shooting plan that might actually work!

[Fred Sanders]

[femmocrat]

1. Oh yes! Very ironic.

When I was teaching, we had an active-shooter drill for staff only. It was very frightening

I was a bit surprised to hear a student say on TV that he realized this was not a drill. He said there had been rumors of a "code red" drill and at first the kids thought this was a drill. Sad, so sad.

Unfortunately, there will be more calls for arming teachers, instead of preventive measures.

[Egnever]

2. My wife and I were just talking about this

She is a teacher and said the idea they want to arm a bunch of people with no interest in guns and expect a good outcome from that is ridiculous.

She doesn't want a gun and if she was confronted with a shooting situation she recognizes she would not suddenly turn into rambo. She would be as likely to shoot a student accidentally as to save anyone. Or just not be willing or able to pull the trigger and kill someone even in self defense.

Arming teachers is not a workable solution.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. Right. Several years ago someone

set up a classroom test where people who were gun owners and users were put in a situation where a shooter showed up and the gun person was to try to take them down. Invariably the gun owner, all of whom were highly confident in their ability to do so, failed miserably.

Imagine how much worse it would be if untrained people were given guns.

[Fred Sanders]

5. So...no element of surprise...against multiple armed good guys...very realistic!?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. The point was that the average gun owner

is nowhere near as well trained or can shoot as accurately as he or she thinks. The piece (and it was on one of the news magazine shows but I haven't the patience to try to track it down) made a point of how police train on a very regular basis, and even they get it wrong at times. And this was before the recent spate of police murdering black men and children at such rates as has been happening in recent years.

The myth that a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy is just that. A myth. It basically has never happened in a mass murder situation.

[Cosmocat]

7. it also runs completely counter to the estabished protocols

Since Columbine law enforcement protocol is to immediately enter the facility when more than three law enforcement officers show up at the site, and their orders are to shoot to kill anyone who is armed.

They don't know why Mr. Jones, the social study teacher who is standing their nervously pointing his handgun at them when they enter his room, as far as they know he is the shooter - he is going to get center massed and double tapped.

[Wounded Bear]

3. Yeah, let's instill that bunker mentality on them young...