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Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:02 AM

How about a -real- buyback. Mandatory, say $10,000 per AR-15

Make it a carrot and stick.

$10,000 cash, tax free per weapon if you turn it in.
If caught with it, 10 years in jail.

While this would be expensive, this would be a MASSIVE economic boost and solve the gun problem at the same time.

Those kinda of numbers - would get the gunners attention and cooperation (for the most part)

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Reply How about a -real- buyback. Mandatory, say $10,000 per AR-15 (Original post)
fescuerescue Feb 2018 OP
Hoyt Feb 2018 #1
samir.g Feb 2018 #3
EX500rider Feb 2018 #19
fescuerescue Feb 2018 #8
TeamPooka Feb 2018 #12
TeamPooka Feb 2018 #11
Girard442 Feb 2018 #2
Wiseman32218 Feb 2018 #21
GP6971 Feb 2018 #4
chumpchange Feb 2018 #5
PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #6
fescuerescue Feb 2018 #14
PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #16
MichMan Feb 2018 #17
fescuerescue Feb 2018 #20
Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #7
Retrotech Feb 2018 #9
Canoe52 Feb 2018 #15
EX500rider Feb 2018 #10
fescuerescue Feb 2018 #13
NickB79 Feb 2018 #18

Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:11 AM

1. Why? Gun-humpers invested in these rifles, and their investment goes bad. A big ZERO

 

and thought and prayers is all they deserve.

Seriously, I do get what you are saying. But why reward depravity?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:14 AM

3. This. Fuck them.

No reward for being murderous fools.

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Response to samir.g (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:13 PM

19. Just how many of the 80 million gun owners are "murderous fools"?

Less then car owners are "murderous DWI fools" I'd say.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:22 AM

8. It's not about reward. It's about practicality

From a constitutional standpoint, we probably have to pay something anyway.

It's about getting something passed that maybe we can't pass otherwise.

Carrot and stick.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:34 AM

12. When they "privatized" gold they paid people market value and confiscated what people tried to hide

from them.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:32 AM

11. this

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:13 AM

2. Make it illegal to transport them on any public property.

Have a short amnesty period where they could be transported to buy-back centers. After that, the only legal alternative would be to call law enforcement officers for a pickup. They can rust in your basement, but you can't sell them or take them to a firing range, a gun show, or for maintenance. Get caught with them in your car, you're screwed.

Not a perfect plan, but doable.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:47 PM

21. Guns are already illegal on school property, won't help this case at all.

I am waiting to see the rest of the profile on this deranged idiot and whether he purchased everything legally. Until then, I am at a loss for a plan to prevent these tragedies.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:15 AM

4. Nice idea

but I don't think you'd get many takers from the serious gunners.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:19 AM

5. Costly

 

I'd guess there are upwards of 10 million in civilian hands, and I assure you they are being actively bought every day now with the media drumbeat. So I can see two problems:

- Expen$ive! You are talking about $100 billion. Even for the bloated budgets we have these days that is a spicy meatball.
- I suspect the mandatory part of that would be heavily litigated and it is likely anything mandatory would go down in flames.

I'd also hazard a guess that compliance would be surprisingly low. Personally, the opportunity to turn a $400 firearm into 10 grand of tax free cash would have me leaping to do so. Heck, I'd go buy one of the things just to get the 10 grand.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:31 AM

6. How much do they cost in the first place?

Unless it's at least $9,999, hell no! Why should they profit obscenely on a murder weapon?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:10 AM

14. The money isn't the point.

And it's temporary. It gets spent and its gone.

But the weapon is gone forever.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:59 AM

16. Unfortunately, the money is the point.

Hell, I'd buy up several of those, given what I've seen of the prices with a quick on-line check. Buy six or seven of them for under a thousand bucks apiece and sell for $10k? What a sweet deal.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

17. Are you going to personally buy them up and destroy them ?

Why wait for any official buyback plan?

You could personally buy them back for $10K each and melt them down.

If the money isn't the point...... why not?

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Response to MichMan (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:38 PM

20. Well I have a hard time finding a sitter for the kids

and my HOA is real strict on running a smelter in my backyard.

So that's why I rely on government to provide government services.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:12 AM

7. How did Australia manage to unarm their citizens

As someone else posted, we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Just about everything we, as a country are struggling with, some other country has figured out. Imagine what we could be if we picked the best of those.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:28 AM

9. Fuck those micro-cocked losers

 

Turn them in, $10,000 fine, and permanent felon status.

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Response to Retrotech (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:38 AM

15. I assume you mean $10,000 fine if you dont turn them in? Totally agree!

And a felony charge also...hmmm, kinda kinky but I like where you’re going with this.

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Response to fescuerescue (Original post)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:32 AM

10. What good would that do?

There are literally hundreds of other models and makes of rifles that work exactly the same way as a AR-15.

Not a AR-15:





Etc

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:09 AM

13. Include those two

I'm not trying to get caught up in terminology. Save the definitions for another day.

We are talking about AR15, AK47 and similar weapons of that class.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:25 AM

18. Terminology is what screwed the 1994 AWB

And let people buy millions of AK and AR variants while in effect.

To this day, we have yet to come up with a definition of an assault rifle that either a) the gun makers can't circmvent legally, or b) doesn't inadvertently include millions of guns used for generations by hunters.

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