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fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:02 AM Feb 2018

How about a -real- buyback. Mandatory, say $10,000 per AR-15

Make it a carrot and stick.

$10,000 cash, tax free per weapon if you turn it in.
If caught with it, 10 years in jail.

While this would be expensive, this would be a MASSIVE economic boost and solve the gun problem at the same time.

Those kinda of numbers - would get the gunners attention and cooperation (for the most part)

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How about a -real- buyback. Mandatory, say $10,000 per AR-15 (Original Post) fescuerescue Feb 2018 OP
Why? Gun-humpers invested in these rifles, and their investment goes bad. A big ZERO Hoyt Feb 2018 #1
This. Fuck them. samir.g Feb 2018 #3
Just how many of the 80 million gun owners are "murderous fools"? EX500rider Feb 2018 #19
It's not about reward. It's about practicality fescuerescue Feb 2018 #8
When they "privatized" gold they paid people market value and confiscated what people tried to hide TeamPooka Feb 2018 #12
this TeamPooka Feb 2018 #11
Make it illegal to transport them on any public property. Girard442 Feb 2018 #2
Guns are already illegal on school property, won't help this case at all. Wiseman32218 Feb 2018 #21
Nice idea GP6971 Feb 2018 #4
Costly chumpchange Feb 2018 #5
How much do they cost in the first place? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #6
The money isn't the point. fescuerescue Feb 2018 #14
Unfortunately, the money is the point. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #16
Are you going to personally buy them up and destroy them ? MichMan Feb 2018 #17
Well I have a hard time finding a sitter for the kids fescuerescue Feb 2018 #20
How did Australia manage to unarm their citizens Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #7
Fuck those micro-cocked losers Retrotech Feb 2018 #9
I assume you mean $10,000 fine if you dont turn them in? Totally agree! Canoe52 Feb 2018 #15
What good would that do? EX500rider Feb 2018 #10
Include those two fescuerescue Feb 2018 #13
Terminology is what screwed the 1994 AWB NickB79 Feb 2018 #18
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Why? Gun-humpers invested in these rifles, and their investment goes bad. A big ZERO
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:11 AM
Feb 2018

and thought and prayers is all they deserve.

Seriously, I do get what you are saying. But why reward depravity?

EX500rider

(10,810 posts)
19. Just how many of the 80 million gun owners are "murderous fools"?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:13 PM
Feb 2018

Less then car owners are "murderous DWI fools" I'd say.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
8. It's not about reward. It's about practicality
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:22 AM
Feb 2018

From a constitutional standpoint, we probably have to pay something anyway.

It's about getting something passed that maybe we can't pass otherwise.

Carrot and stick.

TeamPooka

(24,210 posts)
12. When they "privatized" gold they paid people market value and confiscated what people tried to hide
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:34 AM
Feb 2018

from them.

Girard442

(6,066 posts)
2. Make it illegal to transport them on any public property.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:13 AM
Feb 2018

Have a short amnesty period where they could be transported to buy-back centers. After that, the only legal alternative would be to call law enforcement officers for a pickup. They can rust in your basement, but you can't sell them or take them to a firing range, a gun show, or for maintenance. Get caught with them in your car, you're screwed.

Not a perfect plan, but doable.

Wiseman32218

(291 posts)
21. Guns are already illegal on school property, won't help this case at all.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:47 PM
Feb 2018

I am waiting to see the rest of the profile on this deranged idiot and whether he purchased everything legally. Until then, I am at a loss for a plan to prevent these tragedies.

 

chumpchange

(48 posts)
5. Costly
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:19 AM
Feb 2018

I'd guess there are upwards of 10 million in civilian hands, and I assure you they are being actively bought every day now with the media drumbeat. So I can see two problems:

- Expen$ive! You are talking about $100 billion. Even for the bloated budgets we have these days that is a spicy meatball.
- I suspect the mandatory part of that would be heavily litigated and it is likely anything mandatory would go down in flames.

I'd also hazard a guess that compliance would be surprisingly low. Personally, the opportunity to turn a $400 firearm into 10 grand of tax free cash would have me leaping to do so. Heck, I'd go buy one of the things just to get the 10 grand.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
6. How much do they cost in the first place?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:31 AM
Feb 2018

Unless it's at least $9,999, hell no! Why should they profit obscenely on a murder weapon?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,817 posts)
16. Unfortunately, the money is the point.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:59 AM
Feb 2018

Hell, I'd buy up several of those, given what I've seen of the prices with a quick on-line check. Buy six or seven of them for under a thousand bucks apiece and sell for $10k? What a sweet deal.

MichMan

(11,870 posts)
17. Are you going to personally buy them up and destroy them ?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:00 AM
Feb 2018

Why wait for any official buyback plan?

You could personally buy them back for $10K each and melt them down.

If the money isn't the point...... why not?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
20. Well I have a hard time finding a sitter for the kids
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:38 PM
Feb 2018

and my HOA is real strict on running a smelter in my backyard.

So that's why I rely on government to provide government services.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
7. How did Australia manage to unarm their citizens
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:12 AM
Feb 2018

As someone else posted, we don't have to reinvent the wheel. Just about everything we, as a country are struggling with, some other country has figured out. Imagine what we could be if we picked the best of those.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
15. I assume you mean $10,000 fine if you dont turn them in? Totally agree!
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:38 AM
Feb 2018

And a felony charge also...hmmm, kinda kinky but I like where you’re going with this.

EX500rider

(10,810 posts)
10. What good would that do?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:32 AM
Feb 2018

There are literally hundreds of other models and makes of rifles that work exactly the same way as a AR-15.

Not a AR-15:





Etc

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
13. Include those two
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:09 AM
Feb 2018

I'm not trying to get caught up in terminology. Save the definitions for another day.

We are talking about AR15, AK47 and similar weapons of that class.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
18. Terminology is what screwed the 1994 AWB
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:25 AM
Feb 2018

And let people buy millions of AK and AR variants while in effect.

To this day, we have yet to come up with a definition of an assault rifle that either a) the gun makers can't circmvent legally, or b) doesn't inadvertently include millions of guns used for generations by hunters.

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