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citizen blues

(570 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:30 PM Feb 2018

I believe Assange

Assange Denies That WikiLeaks Backed the GOP in 2016


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has rejected contentions by The Intercept that he supported the Republican party during the 2016 presidential election in a series of tweets. . .

. . . The Intercept writes that the messages provide an “unfiltered window into WikiLeaks’ political goals before it dove into the white-hot center of the presidential election” and that they “reveal a running theme of sexism and misogyny, contain hints of anti-Semitism, and underline Assange’s well-documented obsession with his public image.”

The article also contends that “Assange’s thinking appeared to be rooted not in ideological agreement with the right wing in the US, but in the tactical idea that a Republican president would face more resistance to an aggressive military posture than an interventionist President Hillary Clinton would.”


I believe that Assange does not see himself as having supported the GOP. Assange and the GOP became, as Malcolm Nance would call them, "Fellow Travelers." Each for their own reasons had the same goal - to bring down Hillary Clinton. Instead, what Assange did was defect and use WikiLeaks to not only back, but to aid and abet Russia's attack on the United States.
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I believe Assange (Original Post) citizen blues Feb 2018 OP
I believe Assange WhiteTara Feb 2018 #1
If he ever gets out of there and goes on trial, I believe you can delete "alleged". George II Feb 2018 #21
Excellent point. nt jrthin Feb 2018 #28
Hey George.. Cha Feb 2018 #43
Remove the word "alleged" and I agree with everything you said... Pachamama Feb 2018 #26
I believe Assange hatrack Feb 2018 #2
This+1 bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #51
I believe Assange... Ellipsis Feb 2018 #3
Why defend Assange? SHRED Feb 2018 #4
I believe Assange poboy2 Feb 2018 #5
He also revealed the existence of a secret "back channel" between Assange and Hannity Ezior Feb 2018 #7
I believe Assange Pholus Feb 2018 #6
Your link goes to a website that's on PropOrNot.org's list of sites compromised lapucelle Feb 2018 #8
You always know your stuff! Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #13
I like the clever slams too. lapucelle Feb 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Feb 2018 #36
Excellent catch, lapucelle. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #35
I stand with Rapey Julian! How inspirational. lapucelle Feb 2018 #37
Aloha she.. Cha Feb 2018 #44
Hi, lapucelle.. Please see post #40 Cha Feb 2018 #41
Unsurprising. joshcryer Feb 2018 #56
Man, I hate how I'm now questioning whether every poster under 1,000 is a legit on Blue_Adept Feb 2018 #9
To be fair, some people under 1000 posts are newly registered at DU. lapucelle Feb 2018 #15
It's the current climate, you have to on every site, including D/U and Twitter. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #18
It's not the post count that makes one question but the bs they post JI7 Feb 2018 #39
Yes, but one can't help but think "troll" in this particular instance. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #48
Z. You believe trump too? pwb Feb 2018 #10
I believe Assange TheBlackAdder Feb 2018 #11
I believe Assange IluvPitties Feb 2018 #12
Now that's what I'm talking about. brush Feb 2018 #62
Short, sweet, gets to the point. Me likey. DangerousRhythm Feb 2018 #73
How sad for you. Squinch Feb 2018 #16
I believe what Assange did was an act of war. Initech Feb 2018 #17
Assange is a Russian puppet and has no credibility. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #19
Fuck Julian Assange. ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #20
I believe Assange is a ratfckr and more-than-willing Russian tool Hekate Feb 2018 #22
Julian's Nihilism struggle4progress Feb 2018 #23
Da! Im sure you do believe him BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #24
I Believe Assange Stinks Me. Feb 2018 #25
Hi Me! Cha Feb 2018 #42
"I believe Assange" is an oxymoron. FreepFryer Feb 2018 #27
I believe Assange GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #29
We need to stop falling for this stuff. dchill Feb 2018 #30
... SidDithers Feb 2018 #31
Who cares? He is not our alley. BootinUp Feb 2018 #32
Tell Yevgeny his time in the barrel is coming soon! Vinnie From Indy Feb 2018 #33
I believe Assange is not as stupid as you claim him to be with this statement SharonClark Feb 2018 #34
I belittle Assange. MineralMan Feb 2018 #38
assange is a lying asshole.. here in his own Cha Feb 2018 #40
Boom. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #46
Yeah, but the OP believes assange.. Cha Feb 2018 #49
Annnd... sheshe2 Feb 2018 #60
Figures. Cha Feb 2018 #63
Good One Cha Me. Feb 2018 #47
Never believe an asshole holed up in Cha Feb 2018 #50
But, But...Doncha Know Me. Feb 2018 #65
Right.. he's such a cuddly little asshole. Cha Feb 2018 #67
ICK Me. Feb 2018 #70
Of course , thanks. yeah, lots of folks were Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #52
Yes, actively engaged in Stopping Hillary And Cha Feb 2018 #54
Reminds me, wish I could see the tax returns of ALL of the last presidential election campaigners Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #55
Yes, what are they hiding? Cha Feb 2018 #59
You Said It Brother Me. Feb 2018 #71
I wonder what he and Nigel F were discussing, that one time the press Mc Mike Feb 2018 #45
I Don't Believe Assange tirebiter Feb 2018 #53
So what? So he wasnt a Republican the results are the same wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #57
I believe Assange obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #58
fuck EVERYONE who fell for the anti-Hillary garbage Skittles Feb 2018 #61
Good for you PJMcK Feb 2018 #64
I think he's Putin's puppet, and Putin wanted Trump. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #66
I completely agree. citizen blues Feb 2018 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Feb 2018 #68
I believe 2+2 equals 4... I also believe 3+1 equals 4... Blue_Tires Feb 2018 #69

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
1. I believe Assange
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:32 PM
Feb 2018

is an alleged rapist holing up in a foreign embassy to avoid prosecution. And I believe that Assange personally colluded with the Russians to destroy Hillary Clinton and boost Trump and Stein and Sanders.

Ezior

(505 posts)
7. He also revealed the existence of a secret "back channel" between Assange and Hannity
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:46 PM
Feb 2018

and planned to use that back channel to send dirt on Mark Warner. I wonder where he got that dirt from… HMMMM! Really makes you wonder... I'm looking forward to more indicments.

If anyone needed any more proof…

https://www.thedailybeast.com/julian-assange-thought-he-was-messaging-sean-hannity-when-he-offered-news-on-democrat-investigating-trump-russia

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
6. I believe Assange
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:39 PM
Feb 2018

is an asshat who didn't care he was a tool of Russian intelligence because he got to be "relevant" again for a while.

My version is shorter than yours, and directly to the actual point.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
8. Your link goes to a website that's on PropOrNot.org's list of sites compromised
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:47 PM
Feb 2018

by Russian propagandists.

Russia is Manipulating US Public Opinion through Online Propaganda
We're trying to stop it.

Welcome to PropOrNot! This site is a resource for people who want to understand Russian influence operations targeted at US audiences, distinguish between propaganda and commercial "clickbait", and help identify propaganda and push back.


http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html

http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
13. You always know your stuff!
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:14 PM
Feb 2018

Excellent refutation of poorly reasoned apologia

Love the other “believe” slams

Wonder if he’s bought some new trousers lately

Response to lapucelle (Reply #14)

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
9. Man, I hate how I'm now questioning whether every poster under 1,000 is a legit on
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:48 PM
Feb 2018

Or questioning every poster being legit.

Posts like this make me question it all the more.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
17. I believe what Assange did was an act of war.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 01:57 PM
Feb 2018

By meddling in the election, Russia declared war on the United States. And anyone aiding and abetting Russia should be considered an enemy of the state.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
22. I believe Assange is a ratfckr and more-than-willing Russian tool
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:15 PM
Feb 2018

I don't think your position is very popular here, citizen blues

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
23. Julian's Nihilism
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:16 PM
Feb 2018

Sue Halpern
JULY 13, 2017 ISSUE

... this spring, it emerged that Nigel Farage, the Trump adviser .. now a person of interest in the .. investigation of the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, was meeting with Assange ...

... Assange's own WikiLeaks Party of Australia was aligned with the white nationalist Australia First Party, itself headed by an avowed neo-Nazi, until political pressure forced it to claim that association to be an “administrative error.”

Most egregious .. was Assange's collaboration with Israel Shamir, an unapologetic anti-Semite and Putin ally to whom Assange handed over all State Department diplomatic cables from the Manning leak relating to Belarus ... Shamir then shared these documents with .. the regime of Belarusian President .. Lukashenko, who appeared to use them to imprison and torture members of the opposition ...

... WikiLeaks released troves of material in which the names of Afghan civilians had not been redacted, an action that led Amnesty International, the Open Society Institute, the Campaign for Innocent Victims in Conflict, and the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission to issue a joint rebuke ...

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/07/13/nihilism-of-julian-assange-wikileaks/


FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
27. "I believe Assange" is an oxymoron.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:42 PM
Feb 2018

Everything he says is suspect.

Unless, however, he flips for further investigation(s) into his participation in a conspiracy to defraud the US, violate election law, and facilitate hybrid warfare.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
34. I believe Assange is not as stupid as you claim him to be with this statement
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 02:57 PM
Feb 2018

"I believe that Assange does not see himself as having supported the GOP."

Who truly knows what Assange believes, he's as immoral as Trump.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
38. I belittle Assange.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 03:43 PM
Feb 2018

I berate him.
I begrudge him.
I bemean him.

I do not believe him for a second.

May he rot in his room at the Ecuadorian embassy and be carried out in a box.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
40. assange is a lying asshole.. here in his own
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:21 PM
Feb 2018

freaking words..

IN LEAKED CHATS, WIKILEAKS DISCUSSES PREFERENCE FOR GOP OVER CLINTON, RUSSIA, TROLLING...

snip//

“We believe it would be much better for GOP to win,” he typed into a private Twitter direct message group to an assortment of WikiLeaks’ most loyal supporters on Twitter.

More..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141987626

Cha

(297,196 posts)
49. Yeah, but the OP believes assange..
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:52 PM
Feb 2018

which time?!

Never trust an asshole holed up in an embassy for 6 years trying to avoid rape charges in Sweden.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
50. Never believe an asshole holed up in
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:56 PM
Feb 2018

an embassy for 6 years.. trying to avoid a rape charge in Sweden.

Me

Me.

(35,454 posts)
65. But, But...Doncha Know
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 09:42 PM
Feb 2018

He's trying to save the world from those 'terrible' Dems. Imagine what would happen if they were in charge.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
52. Of course , thanks. yeah, lots of folks were
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

actively engaged in stopping Hillary...

when ALL the names are exposed, well, lets just say shit will get real at that point

Cha

(297,196 posts)
54. Yes, actively engaged in Stopping Hillary And
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:00 PM
Feb 2018

Helping the gop.. 'cause they're idiots.

They Own This.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
45. I wonder what he and Nigel F were discussing, that one time the press
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:31 PM
Feb 2018

caught Nige coming out of the embassy.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
61. fuck EVERYONE who fell for the anti-Hillary garbage
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:22 PM
Feb 2018

seriously, GO FUCK YOURSELVES because you SURELY helped to FUCK AMERICA

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
64. Good for you
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 09:28 PM
Feb 2018

Do a little research. If you're a Democratic voter, you'll realize your perspective needs to be re-addressed.

Alternatively, your post is suspect.

citizen blues

(570 posts)
72. I completely agree.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:39 PM
Feb 2018

That was the point I was trying to make because I keep hearing about how he was helping the GOP. He wasn't. As I mentioned in my post, Assange DEFECTED to Russia and used WikiLeaks to support Putin. That was his sole purpose.

Now, just to be clear, this does not let the members of the GOP off the hook or make them any LESS culpable for their crimes, including obstruction of justice, conspiracy against the United States, money laundering, and sedition.

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