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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this a dumb question, or is there a real contradiction here?
If the 2nd Amendment exists to help the citizenry fight against a tyrannical government, why are so many 2nd Amendment supporters in favor of a strong military? I'm not trying to generalize here, but just about every 2nd Amendment supporter I know wants the military to be as big and bad as possible, all the while thinking he'll be able to take it on barricaded inside his house some day.
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)in a cut down the tall trees Rawanda style civil conflict.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)By militia, they were thinking in terms of the national guard which is controlled by the states.
The NRA and gun industry have twisted it's meaning.
unblock
(52,227 posts)was to make the second part be interpreted exactly the same as if the first part had never been written.
Thats right, the framers carefully debated and chose every word in that very important document but decided to include a few completely useless words just to mess with us.
unblock
(52,227 posts)And for some reason they think a tyrannical government will go down in defeat by a handful of yahoos with a few assault rifles rather than violate that sacred rule.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)how big and bad the gun they own is, if the government wanted to "take control" it would be completely useless against the tanks, planes, grenade launchers etc that the government would deploy against them. They are dumber than a box of rocks.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)what I said. Comparing a war zone to a high-school doesn't make sense.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)That's after sixteen years of fighting the US+NATO+FSM knows who else, all of which have
"tanks, planes, grenade launchers etc"
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)I don't think our military hasn't taken control of Afghanistan because of resistance; I think it's because of the way we fight wars these days. There are rules of engagement, and we don't go to war to gain territory or totally defeat our enemies anymore. I'm sure with the might of the American military we could make Afghanistan the 51st state if we wanted to, but that's not the goal. We always seem to fight wars half assed, as a third party that goes in, routs one side of a dispute and funds and trains the other side, hoping they can carry on the battle for us. We get into wars, not to win them, but for things like keeping the flow of oil going to the world market.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Yes. There is a contradiction. That's all they have.
TheBlackAdder
(28,194 posts)It's something that they are used to. They are used to living in a rigid environment or nanny state.
They are actually fearful if there are too many free decisions, options, and variables in life.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)It doesn't matter how big and bad your tanks and drones are if you can't tell the good guys from the bad guys. Especially not in your own country.
See e.g. Vietnam or Afghanistan.