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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:15 AM Feb 2018

Indicted Alex van der Zwaan, Alfa group, Alfa Bank & the servers talking to Spectrum Health Servers

Last edited Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:44 PM - Edit history (2)

Some seem to miss the significance here; Alex van der Zwaan is the son (now updated to son-in-law) of Oligarch German Khan, owner of the Alfa Group (aka Alfa Bank). Alfa Bank servers were among those making inexplicable Idoine DNS tunneling comms with Spectrum Health servers... Just sayin’.





What? You can't keep all of the villians and their dirty deeds straight? Me, either.
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Indicted Alex van der Zwaan, Alfa group, Alfa Bank & the servers talking to Spectrum Health Servers (Original Post) MelissaB Feb 2018 OP
AHA! I knew one of our DU smart people would connect the dots for me! Squinch Feb 2018 #1
LOL! I wish. MelissaB Feb 2018 #16
Idoine DNS tunneling comms? FSogol Feb 2018 #2
Yup. Spectrum Health is said to have sold its massive client data base & all the personal info to RU Wwcd Feb 2018 #3
RU? Nt lostnfound Feb 2018 #13
Spectrum Health is a DeVos corporation Botany Feb 2018 #14
Guess which former Mayor of NYC 's law firm represents Alpha bank? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #22
Fascinating. eom poboy2 Feb 2018 #23
Eric Prince (DeVos' brother) & Rudy Giuliani too Botany Feb 2018 #31
there's a reason why mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 #34
NY State AG Schneiderman is making a case about him dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #35
FWIW, WAPO has corrected. He is German Khans son-in-law. emulatorloo Feb 2018 #4
..and interesting how the dots are connecting. Wwcd Feb 2018 #6
SON-IN-LAW. I hope the phrase "son-in-law" makes Jared wet his pants. Turn CO Blue Feb 2018 #7
Wedding pic Exotica Feb 2018 #9
There is a link with the Tump servers too WhiteTara Feb 2018 #5
Yes that is what I'd read also. The Spectrum/Alpha Bank/Trump Towers servers Wwcd Feb 2018 #8
The chart has to be massive! So glad to see the dots being connected Exotica Feb 2018 #10
One of my columns was on this very thing WhiteTara Feb 2018 #12
Can you repost your column? As fast as posts move here, its easy to miss them & this is Wwcd Feb 2018 #19
Free Parking 9-17-2018 WhiteTara Feb 2018 #20
Omg thats precious. It really deserves its own thread. Wwcd Feb 2018 #21
I think I may put it all in my journal too. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #26
I agree. It deserves it's own thread MelissaB Feb 2018 #30
OMG...we can get Betsy and Erik too? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2018 #25
It is definitely my hope that they all go down WhiteTara Feb 2018 #27
Good catch! kentuck Feb 2018 #11
This is really important. Maybe re-title your OP. Shanti Mama Feb 2018 #15
I updated the OP MelissaB Feb 2018 #17
I made it work. MelissaB Feb 2018 #18
So they arrested some rich fuck's son-in-law? Iggo Feb 2018 #24
Mueller and his team are closing in. gademocrat7 Feb 2018 #28
Thanks for info re lawyer ties to sleeze bobbieinok Feb 2018 #29
Van der Zwaan lied to the FBI rusty fender Feb 2018 #32
YOU..... Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #33

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
16. LOL! I wish.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:41 PM
Feb 2018

I have trouble keeping all of these criminals straight because there are so many of them.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
3. Yup. Spectrum Health is said to have sold its massive client data base & all the personal info to RU
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:23 AM
Feb 2018

for the purpose of voter data theft & manipulation in 2016 election.

Spectrum Health is a DeVos corporation.
Go figure!

Voter data theft was the biggest hot commoodity in the 2015/16 election that earned the thieves millions. $$$$$$$$$.

Wasn't Alpha Bank run thru Trump Tower servers?
Bannon, Kershner, DJT jr....

Botany

(70,643 posts)
14. Spectrum Health is a DeVos corporation
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018


alpha bank*, the mercers, cambridge analytic, and now Betsy DeVos?

Mueller's team is putting "it" all together.

* they had the server in trump's hq.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Guess which former Mayor of NYC 's law firm represents Alpha bank?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:26 PM
Feb 2018

And has been on a number of trips to Russia during the election?

Rudy Giuliani

mnmoderatedem

(3,736 posts)
34. there's a reason why
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:52 AM
Feb 2018

the usually outspoken Giuliani has been so silent.

Looks like we may be getting closer to the concrete reasons why

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
4. FWIW, WAPO has corrected. He is German Khans son-in-law.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:23 AM
Feb 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/mueller-probe-london-based-son-of-russian-businessman-to-plead-guilty-to-false-statements/2018/02/20/142f4d2e-164b-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.b46a2455fa23

“Correction: An earlier version of this story described Alex Van der Zwaan as German Khan’s son. He is his son-in-law and the story has been corrected.”

Thanks for the post! The plot thickens.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
6. ..and interesting how the dots are connecting.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:34 AM
Feb 2018

Wonder what Mueller does to clear his head when this all just presents a mind numbing moment.

Does he have a big gob of clay to work on while he sorts it out?
Racketball?
Walk the halls?
Massage & a hot towel facial?

He has to have some zen-like thing to re-center himself.. ..


WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
5. There is a link with the Tump servers too
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:31 AM
Feb 2018

that doesn't seem to be in this sequence, but they moved info from Russia to Trump Tower to Spectrum Health, back to Trump and then back to Alfa.

Please take down the DeVos...Betsy and her slimy brother Eric :praying hands:

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
8. Yes that is what I'd read also. The Spectrum/Alpha Bank/Trump Towers servers
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:39 AM
Feb 2018

You know Eric Prince is in this somewhere. He & Kershner, the Kehilos bot factory they ran out of those servers to the foreign troll farmer that Mueller just extradicted from Spain.

Imagine the size of Muellers wall chart on all this.

Who's who & how they connect.
Wow

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
10. The chart has to be massive! So glad to see the dots being connected
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 11:51 AM
Feb 2018

All the scum deserve super max for life.

WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
12. One of my columns was on this very thing
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:01 PM
Feb 2018

I wrote about it about 2 months ago. I'm glad to see this is coming to light.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
19. Can you repost your column? As fast as posts move here, its easy to miss them & this is
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 02:13 PM
Feb 2018

..a topic the deserves revisiting today.
I'd like to read it..
There's a lot going on to process & dots missed months ago may be obvious & very relevant now.

If you can, please re-post.

Thanks.

WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
20. Free Parking 9-17-2018
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:39 PM
Feb 2018

As the tale of betrayal and treason inundating the Trump White House spirals in an ever widening gyre, we add more names in this saga: DeVos and Zuckerberg.

In a November 22, 2016 Forbes article, Jared Kushner bragged about his “Stealth Data Machine” that won the White House for Donald Trump. In an article dated October 31, 2016, Slate magazine reported on the connections in Kushner’s “Machine.”

For months during the election cycle, reporters noted constant internet data traffic between Trump Towers servers and Russian Alfa Bank’s servers. Now we learn of a third leg in those data transmissions.

Spectrum Health, a DeVos family (of Amway multilevel-scheme wealth) company’s computer servers appear to have been receiving, replicating and updating hacked voter records with more complete data gleaned from their voluminous patient records. Then after being updated and replicated, that data was transmitted to Trump Tower servers, Alfa Bank servers and finally to the Kremlin for weaponization based on targeted voter information.

Confirming these allegations, computer data scientists recently published Meta data from their IP addresses and noted consistent lengths of time for each transmission and period of rest.

Intelligence shows Russia’s GRU hacked both DNC voter rolls and voter registration systems throughout the 2016 election cycle. While no data was stolen, deleted or changed, it was replicated.

Zuckerberg’s Facebook recently admitted taking illegal ad money from Russian companies. Whether Zuckerberg’s company is complicit is undetermined. But the reported $100,000 ad buys placed a lot of political ads on Facebook . Those ads aimed to destroy the opposition: Hillary Clinton.

Betsy DeVos, now part of the Trump cabinet, is turning our public school system into private charter and alternative (religious) schools.

Her brother, Eric Prince, owner of infamous Blackwater private military, is lobbying for his new “logistics” company, Frontier Resource Group, to replace our military in Afghanistan. So far, our generals have managed to squash that plan.

Now under cover of devastating fires and hurricanes, Trump and the Republicons are stacking the courts. Fascism is edging ever closer. All I can say is, “Hurry Up! Robert Mueller! Those clanging bells signal a 10 Alarm Fire!”

I tried to find the link to that week's paper, they have a really terrible website and I can't find it. http://esindependent.com September 15, 2017

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
21. Omg thats precious. It really deserves its own thread.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:45 PM
Feb 2018

From The WhiteTara Diaries:

There's so much we've covered in one year.
This makes one realize just how crazy its been.

post it in editorials ..
👍

WhiteTara

(29,736 posts)
26. I think I may put it all in my journal too.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:47 PM
Feb 2018

I have been so grateful that my editor allows me to write whatever I want and it has been so cathartic for me to be able to let some of this out. I've had my column for about a year...has it really been a year? So long for such a short time.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
30. I agree. It deserves it's own thread
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:05 PM
Feb 2018

and please send me a message if you do so that I don't miss it.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
15. This is really important. Maybe re-title your OP.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:25 PM
Feb 2018

Lead with "indictment!"
But also fix your facts... son-in-law

Iggo

(47,597 posts)
24. So they arrested some rich fuck's son-in-law?
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:34 PM
Feb 2018

Paging Mr Kushner?

Message for Mr Kushner from a Mr Mueller.

Paging Mr Kushner?

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
32. Van der Zwaan lied to the FBI
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:30 AM
Feb 2018

about the content and timetable of his contact with Rick Gates. Van der Zwaan told the FBI that he last contacted Gates in August of 2016 and that they talked about their kids and stuff.

However, the conversation took place in September 2016 and they talked about a 2012 report that Van der Zwaan helped author. The report was written to prove, falsely, that Ukrainian President Yevchenko’s prosecution of his political rival wasn’t politically motivated.

Why did Rick Gates want that information and why did Van der Zwaan lie about it? Did Gates need a blueprint on how to take down Trump’s future political rivals and is that why Van der Wall lied about it

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
33. YOU.....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:37 AM
Feb 2018

Are awesome!

Make sure you see Rachel on tape later

Her show was about this

Your great post fleshes it out

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