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By Paul Waldman February 21 at 1:35 PM
The American right is officially terrified of the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Those students, who rapidly turned themselves into activists and organizers after 17 of their fellow students and teachers were murdered in their school, have become the most visible face of this new phase of the gun debate, and conservatives are absolutely livid about it. As a consequence, theyre desperately arguing not just that the students are wrong in their suggestions for how gun policy should be changed, but that they shouldnt be speaking at all and ought to be ignored.
There are two criticals reasons the right is having this reaction, one more obvious than the other. The plainer reason is that as people who were personally touched by gun violence and as young people old enough to be informed and articulate but still children the students make extremely sympathetic advocates, garnering attention and a respectful hearing for their views. The less obvious reason is that because of that status, the students take away the most critical tool conservatives use to win political arguments: the personal vilification of those who disagree with them.
Just to be clear, Im not saying liberals dont often vilify their opponents, too. But that technique lies at the absolute core of the rights rhetoric, and you can tell by how they react when it gets taken away from them.
So right now, conservatives are engaged in a two-pronged attempt to take it back. On the more extreme side, you have the social media trolls, the conspiracy theorists, the more repugnant media figures, who are offering insane claims that the students are paid agents of dark forces, and can therefore be ignored. On the more allegedly mainstream side, you have radio and television hosts who are saying that the students are naïve and foolish, and should not by virtue of their victimhood be granted any special status and can therefore be ignored.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)That is like saying one is exaggerating if they report on a hurricane. "Why are you saying there will be 100 mph winds, why are you being so dramatic?"
As in when a liberal describes a rightwinger, truthful description is all it takes and while it might sound like vilifying to an outsider who doesn't know what they are truly like, it is in fact just being accurate.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)rainin
(3,011 posts)should not be equated with right wingers who make shit up!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Cha
(297,220 posts)been paying attention in that respect?
Liberals don't have to vilify repubs.. they do it to themselves.
Otherwise I like what he has to say about why Cons are so pissed right now.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I did not realize it means "accurately characterize" too.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)they cannot write these kids off as limousine liberals.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)the aggressor they'll be able to make it go away. Let's hope they're wrong.
Cha
(297,220 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)They are terrified because in truth the gun humpers are cowards
They are terrified because they are ignorant and afraid of the truth
They are terrified because they know the parents of these children will listen to their kids before any politician
They are terrified because their President is a twitter golfing Russian stooge and is too unpopular to protect them any more
We are witnessing a seminal moment in US History
The era of conservatism has come and gone. Conservatives need to move on.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Has come into play. The Florida legislature just voted against gun reform. They can no longer hide from the consequences of their votes. Bodies are on their doorstep.
magicarpet
(14,150 posts).... because of their blatant corrupt ways, disgusting under the table political payments from the NRA and glaring ineptitude where they permitted our political system to be captured and come under the full control of paid gun lobbyists and gun humpers.
While the damages, suffering, and pain inflicted upon the common citizen is totally ignored and intentionally not addressed.
liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)venture to add that they're also angry because the "tools" of their "trade" are beginning to lose their effectiveness, and will soon work less and less, because people are starting to wake up to their bullshit and are NOT going to lie down and take it anymore. In addition, as befits most bullies, they don't like it when the bullied and potentially bullied aren't lying down and taking it anymore and will no longer sit down and shut up.
And, btw, FUCK the Gungeon here. I don't even understand why we still have it here.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)I want one of the most articulate of them to stand up and say "We know why you have not done anything about guns. There are two reasons, one is money and the other is that YOU SIMPLY DO NOT CARE.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)It's almost like the repugs and the murderers are on the same side, against the 99% of Americans who are normal people.
The repugs do the same thing any time right wing terrorists attack us. dRumpf does the same thing when Russyia attacks us.
They're a massive liability to the country, the weakest link always, impossible to team up with them, when the chips are down, count on them to always side with the enemies of decency and normalcy.
Truly a treasonous drain on our nation.
ALBliberal
(2,342 posts)Horrible time we are in. We can only expect them to make things harder for us. Exponentially harder in each and every situation you lay out.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)They get credit for TRYING always to make things more horrible and harder for all of us. But they fail, quite often, despite their best efforts.
ToxMarz
(2,166 posts)Very much like the way it eats them up not to be able to use the N word, but blacks can.
ananda
(28,860 posts)This student movement is huge and having
a great impact!
mgardener
(1,816 posts)They are afraid, very very afraid.
They know some of these kids will be voting in the midterms and more in the general election.
They know that unless something drastic happens these kids and I am including all those across the country who sympathise with them, will never vote Republican. Ever again.
They have been shot at, traumatised, and told, in essence, their lives don't matter. Why would they ever vote for the people who allowed that to happen?
And this campaign says alot about republicans. They are bullies, pure and simple. They like Trump because they are Trump. They are bullies because they want what they want when they want it. They don't care about kids unless they are preborn. Anybody that tells you different is lying. Becuse anybody that cares about kids would CARE if they are being slaughtered in school.
They are despicable.
Sam McGee
(347 posts)First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)had to turn it off just after the father of the killed girl said he was pissed. Look these are young kids and while some are incredibly articulate, the ones they picked to meet with Trump seem star struck saying things like your are doing a great job Mr. President. It made me sick. Again, I know they are only kids but these kids seem to be so deferential to the President. I just want someone to say to Cheetos face, what have you done after Las Vegas shooting, why havent you done anything? Why is your son Don Jr. promoting the false narrative that we are actors? If it was my kid hurt I wouldnt be so nice when talking to the president. And yes I despise the man.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Remember the Arab Spring Revolution? Facebook played a fairly significant role in that, if I recall. Since then we've got Twitter, Snapchat and a host of other social media platforms -- and an entire generation which is proficient in using all of them.
This could be a revolution on steroids. No wonder the right is going bat shit crazy. They could lose in the blink of an eye, and never know what hit them.
#NeverAgain
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)They earned it running for their lives as their friends and classmates were slaughtered. If the GOP NRA ass kissers don't like it that is too damn bad.