My brother the gun nut...

[Honeycombe8]

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My brother, the ultimate gun nut. He collects them. He even has an assault rifle (put away...he doesn't shoot it). He goes to the shooting range. He lovingly cleans his guns and is always on the lookout for yet another gun. He is a strong 2nd Amendment supporter. He thinks the government tried to take guns and ammo away from the citizens a few years ago, when the local shops ran out of ammo (I asked him...you don't think the shops were out because there had been a run on the ammo, and the stores sold out? He just looked at me, as if he hadn't considered that. I mean, Target runs out of clothing, if something's popular and there's a run on it.)

I'm telling you all this to tell you...my brother is fine with assault rifles being banned. In fact, he thinks they SHOULD be. He says they are war weapons and don't belong out in the general public. Those gun shocks, or whatever those things are called - those should be banned, too, he thinks. These type of things serve no useful purpose except to kill people, he said.

He used to be an NRA member, but left a couple of years ago after one of those shootings where an assault rifle was used.

Just letting you know: There ARE 2nd Amendment supporters who will agree to, or go along with, some control bills.

[mikeysnot]

1. there is a fetish like behavior to the cult of guns

but I agree not all guns should be banned.

I haven't hunted in years but still have a bird shot gun locked up. It is only fired at our farm.

We target practice with a red rider BB for sport.

[aggiesal]

21. You'll shoot your eye out! n/t

[demosincebirth]

44. Red Ryder? You must be an old timer.

[mikeysnot]

50. Not as old as our shotgun

12 gauge Remington 1897. yes I am old. I guess. Compared to folks younger than me....

[USALiberal]

2. Many gun nuts are paranoid nuts. Assume a murderer is lurking everywhere. nt

[Drahthaardogs]

3. They ran out of ammo because nutters went out and bought it

After Obama was elected.

I know a guy who bought 20,000 rounds. Yep. He had to buy a shipping container to hold it all

[Honeycombe8]

6. I know! But my brother and father & stepmom thought the govt had taken all the ammo.

[moreland01]

19. Kaboom!

We know a guy who hoarded boxes and boxes of ammo in metal containers in his garage in Minnesota. The house caught fire and the fire department stood by and watched it burn to the ground. They wouldn't go near it with the ammo exploding.

[Honeycombe8]

23. LOL. nt

[Mariana]

11. When they did that, and bought a zillions guns

they demonstrated that they knew were full of shit about being afraid of their guns being taken away. Think about it. If you think an item is about to be outlawed and confiscated, what do you do? Do you run right out and spend tons of money buying more of them? Of course not. They were pretending all along.

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. Must be nice to have that kind of money to throw away on paranoid delusional crap.

[mitch96]

42. They call it "preparation"... nt

[Calista241]

53. That and the military was placing huge orders to replenish their stocks

From expenditures in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Freethinker65]

4. Is there an alternative to the NRA which focuses on safety, target practice, hunting, self defense??

If not, there is a need for one.

[pangaia]

22. That's what the nra used to be, as I understand it..

[Freethinker65]

43. Exactly

I thought perhaps there was already an alternative

[snort]

37. There was.

Back in 1970 it was called the NRA. I went when I was ten years of age. Dad was in the Military, there was a gun in the house. Seemed like a good idea.

[NutmegYankee]

5. Several pro-gun people I work with said the same.

Most were hunters and just ripped into the arming teachers BS.

It’s like the collapse of the Anti-Saloon League.

[Honeycombe8]

7. +1. Kids getting shot with these things is particularly upsetting to my brother. nt

[Adrahil]

25. I own guns. Even ARs.

But something has to change.

Put Semi-autos that can accept a removable magazine on the NFA list.

Same with magazine over 10 round capacity.

This has to stop.

[NutmegYankee]

29. I agree.

I was once on the pro-gun side, but I'm done with that. I haven't gone to the range in 2 years.

[rdking647]

33. ive suggested the same thing

no problem with it

my proposal was to add the following to the NFA list

any semi automatic weapon that fires a centerfire rifle cartridge

[Adrahil]

59. I'd add the removable magazine part....

I think an old Garand isn't a mass-shooting threat on its own.

But I'd take it.

Love the Klingon avatar.

[johnpowdy]

48. Curious as to why you need an AR?

Do you plan to destroy it? I saw many owners are coming out and destroying them which is great

[Adrahil]

55. I don't "need" them...

I like to shoot at the range. Had done since I was kid.

For me, it's strictly a hobby. I used to shoot at a local club, but quit when they began requiring NRA membership.

I shoot now (a lot less than I used to) at the State-run DNR ranges.

I keep the guns locked up and unloaded.

I don't have any plans to destroy them.... other than making a statement, I don't see the point. I'm certainly not going to use them to commit violence. My wife doesn't like them. My daughter neither has an interest, inclination, or even knows where they are. I have instructions in my will that any modern gun I own be turned into the cops when I die. My historic guns (antiques) can either go to my daughter, if she has an interest, or they can be sold... they pose no public safety threat.

And to clear, my hobby is not worth the lost lives. I favor legislation to make public access to these kinds of weapons and magazines difficult, if not impossible.

[Lars39]

56. Theres a good chance those guns

that are turned in to the police will be resold.

[Adrahil]

58. If that's the case, I'll change my will...

... and specify they are destroyed.

Pretty sure my local department destroys them, though. The AR's might be suitable for police service.

[FalseRhetoric]

62. Depends

This is not true everywhere. Guns are oftentimes put into metal shredders and destroyed. I know a guy that sells the machines. In most PDs you can You can ask that a gun be destroyed.

[Honeycombe8]

10. What does your post mean? An odd post, for your first post. What's your position on gun control?

What does it mean? It seems to be a diss. Is it? What's your position on some gun control?

[billh58]

15. Russian trolls

talk funny...

[Fred Sanders]

16. We should have a Russian Troll forum where all removed posts can be looked at.

😍

It's a joke!

[Honeycombe8]

26. I wish.

But I don't find them very funny. Still, I'd like to look at them, to be better at spotting them. Usually, if someone is new to a forum, they're a little cautious on what they say, until they learn the lay of the land, so to speak.

Sometimes, like this guy, are posting nonsense to rack up some posts, so his newness isn't obvious, when he gets around to sowing seeds of discord.

[sarah FAILIN]

31. Sounds fun!

[Honeycombe8]

24. +1. nt

[demigoddess]

9. Due to weather, we have had some

Home fires, one the firemen couldn’t go in . Ammunition on the premises. Too dangerous!!

[NutmegYankee]

14. Usually it doesnt stop trained firefighters.

It’s a myth that the bullets can shoot around when not in a barrel. The only danger is within 5-6 feet from the shell casings popping like Chinese firecrackers.

[mnhtnbb]

17. When our house burned down, a firefighter came and asked me as I was watching everything

go up in flames where the ammunition was stored. They heard it exploding. My husband had a hunting rifle.

[Kurt V.]

18. I'm hopeful

Yesterday I was at the pawn shop getting movies. the owner and a customer were discussing the need for some gun control.

[Honeycombe8]

27. That's a good sign. There are movies at pawn shops?

Cheap prices?

[Kurt V.]

60. yes

they have nearly as many movies as guns. 6 for $10. (the movies, not the guns)

[Honeycombe8]

61. lol. +1 nt

[appalachiablue]

20. There's one in the family. Not a collector but an outdoors fishing,

hunting person with brains and much heart. Wouldn't hurt a fly unless he had to. Worrier type, esp. with age, influenced too much by rw LE acquaintances, the wrong news, Pox possibly.

Started when his neighbor, nice man in his 60s was carjacked & found dead in his trunk a few blocks away. The neighbor had offered to assist a young guy at a nearby store who said he had car problems. The older man helped him and the guy robbed and killed him.

[Honeycombe8]

28. Oh, how terrible. No good deed goes unpunished, they say. nt

[rdking647]

30. im a gun owner and i own an ar-15

I support the 2nd amendment
i have no problem with my ar being banned...

[Honeycombe8]

32. Good news. My brother's the same way. He has his....

as a collector. He won't sell it, because it will go into the commercial stream and no telling how it will be used. He said at least he knows where it is and is not being used, where it is. But he doesn't have the heart to destroy it. He loves guns.

[rdking647]

34. ive considered auctioning mine off

in a special auction for the right to cut it into pieces
will all proceeds going to an gun control group

[mcar]

35. Sounds like he has common sense

[njhoneybadger]

36. I wouldn't consider him a gun nut

[Honeycombe8]

39. Yes. Anyone who "loves" guns for their own sake, collects them, loves the culture...

goes to gun shops to hang out there, goes to the range regularly, likes to live in an area that, as he put it, has a "gun culture," rather than just likes guns...that's a gun nut. Spends a lot of money on guns. Travels distances to buy guns. No doubt about it. Gun nut.

No hunting guns. He doesn't hunt.

[njhoneybadger]

41. Your 1st description was a little different. Post 39 yes gun nut

[Hoyt]

38. Sad thing is, it takes these tragedies for gunners -- well some of them -- to come to their senses.

There still too many gunners -- even here -- standing their ground on AR15s and the like.

[Honeycombe8]

40. As long as they get there.

There are some who just won't ever get there. They're gun nuts, and paranoid, and often believe in the big bad government conspiracies.

[demosincebirth]

45. Did you ever ask him what does he want to prove with all that fire power?

[Honeycombe8]

46. No. He would be offended.

I assume it's like anything that any of us like. It's just a hobby, I guess. Plus a macho thing. Also, he lives in what I call Bubba Land, where most of the people have guns.

I have a gun, too. A .38 revolver. For protection. He gave it to me, actually, when I had trouble with my little .22.

I was shocked to hear he has an assault rifle.

[johnpowdy]

49. Why would you even need a gun for protection?

And the thought of someone owning an assault rifle literally makes me shake with anger/fear....its insane that people are allowed to own those

[nil desperandum]

54. I stayed with my folks

while on leave from the military. We had always hunted, my dad, my brothers, my friends...brought guns to school in our cars and trucks and I even carried my double barrel shotgun into English class to show my teacher who was interested in what we had for guns.

I also had a revolver as a kid...and I bought a 1911 for target practice and because I knew it was a military pistol.

While home on leave two men tried a home invasion of my parent's home apparently mistaking our home for someone they knew to have some cash on hand...had I not had that 1911 I suspect the outcome would have been quite different for my parents and siblings...

The thing that remains in my mind as a clear as a bell over 40 years later is how fast everything happened...literally seconds, the sounds, the smells, I still recall it as if it was yesterday.

Training with the 1911 in the Army made my proficiency with it very good.

I still carry to this day, perhaps because of that experience. I still target shoot and train with some old military friends a few younger vets because I think it's wise to do so to remain accurate and safe with your techniques.

I will probably never need that weapon again, but when I did I was really glad it was available.

I'm a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment and I don't find it at all at odds with the ideas of being a progressive. That said I think certain aspects of our guns laws should be addressed, but that's not the only resolution here.

[beachbum bob]

51. most gun owners, like myself have no use for military grade weapons or want them in the hands

of civilians. They are not hunting weapons unless you consider people hunting. They should be banned, collected and destroyed along with all the ammo.

[PJMcK]

52. An ammunition story

Five or six years ago, I was going to meet some friends one morning to play golf. On my way to the course, I decided to stop at Dick's Sporting Goods to pick up some balls and a glove. When I arrived at the store, it was a little early and they hadn't opened yet. There were three or four other guys waiting for the doors to open and we chatted as we waited.

When the manager came to open the doors, he apparently recognized one or two of the guys and said that they were out of ammunition until the delivery a couple of days later. All of the other guys left dejectedly and I overheard a couple of snarky comments about the government.

Of course, I needed ammunition of a different sort. (wink)

[nil desperandum]

57. Indeed

so many people bought firearms while Obama was president that manufacturers couldn't keep up.

The conspiracy theorists ran with that as far as they could. Suggesting that Homeland Security was hoarding the ammo for a sort of "end of days" apocalypse.

For me it just reinforced the value of being able to load your own ammo.

Some gunpowder, lots of brass and bullets, and some relaxing time with the equipment.

Plus you can make and test your own loads to find different results for your weapons capabilities. Those who like firearms and statistical data often find that relaxing.