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Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:28 AM Feb 2018

Well maybe I understand just a tad better why it seems to be TAKING SO LONG to roll up all

these mobsters -

Now, here’s Manafort’s indictment just from today - and it’s 31 pages long, and some poor typists, maybe dozens of them? had to type this shit up and proof it and proof it again and check and double check because I bet if one little piece of info is misspelled, BAM. MISTRIAL. SCREW UP. CASE DISMISSED.

Or something

Anyway, I have lived and learned this evening

https://www.justice.gov/file/1038741/download



MR. MUELLER AND HIS OVERWORKED TYPISTS
FUCK YEAH

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Well maybe I understand just a tad better why it seems to be TAKING SO LONG to roll up all (Original Post) Leghorn21 Feb 2018 OP
The Feds had a couple of Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #1
That's right.. I read that... omg Cha Feb 2018 #3
Judge Navarro wants the Feds to recharge Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #5
Good to know.. thanks Cha Feb 2018 #7
Sure hope so. Hortensis Feb 2018 #8
Looks like Muellers team is dotting every i and crossing every t with this detailed documents emulatorloo Feb 2018 #9
Understand Mueller had a case get away from him Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #10
He let the big fish get away in BCCI, while going after underlings Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #16
Here it is....they derailed Kerrys attempts in the senate to penetrate the veil of big money, Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #20
Absolutely frustating for all concerned and dismaying for the attentive public. nocalflea Feb 2018 #26
The requirement of disclosure (Brady rule) is not a mere technical issue Jim Lane Feb 2018 #13
Cheers to the Lion and his Typists! Cha Feb 2018 #2
Thanks for the link, Leghorn21. I was able to download it right to iBooks. Hekate Feb 2018 #4
No, Ms. Peach, you may not use the name "Orange Anus" in the indictment ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #6
the detective is great, but when does the prick go to fucking jail? world wide wally Feb 2018 #11
Which prick? Too many to choose from. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #14
The big ugly one world wide wally Feb 2018 #15
He will probable be saved for last to make the case BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #22
I get you... but I fucking hate the enemy world wide wally Feb 2018 #23
Don't we all. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #24
I think Rohrabacher is the next domino to fall. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #31
That still encompasses a bunch of them. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #27
Depends on what they find. Unless he's actually ordered a murder, pnwmom Feb 2018 #19
The USA vs The Orange Anus world wide wally Feb 2018 #12
Yup. And it's also taking a long time because the corruption has spread its tentacles pnwmom Feb 2018 #17
I heard from the pundits on CNN and MSNBC that BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #18
They also said he will lay off any activity around the midterms so we should expect an uptick over Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #29
That makes sense. I told two people about the projected timeline BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #32
You are right about the "poor typists." pnwmom Feb 2018 #21
A friend of mine proof read law books while she was in law school csziggy Feb 2018 #28
He's old and tired, snort Feb 2018 #25
I would love a chat with the forensic accountant. The $$$ laundered must be mind blowing. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #30
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. The Feds had a couple of
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:32 AM
Feb 2018

Conspiracy Cases go south in the last couple of years due to technical issues,like not giving the defense a piece of info or a video. Bundy Land take over cases are the examples.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Judge Navarro wants the Feds to recharge
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:38 AM
Feb 2018

the Bundy Crew and bring the case back into Court. We shall see. Some of the Players are running afoul of the Law back in their own Communities.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
16. He let the big fish get away in BCCI, while going after underlings
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:16 AM
Feb 2018

Biggest bank fraud ever, at the time......early nineties ended

https://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Bank-Wild-Secret-Heart/dp/1587981467

Not very well reported, but one of the authors had it out with mueller on night line

I read the googlebooks excerpt

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
26. Absolutely frustating for all concerned and dismaying for the attentive public.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 08:54 AM
Feb 2018

about the Nightline interview :

By not answering the questions put forth, it sounds like Mueller was trying to protect a classified counterintelligence operation. We have seen the FBI and Justice prosecutors behave this way in countless cases. And yeah, we've seen them get it wrong (Whitey Bulger).

Considering corrupt elected politicians were involved, it might have been deemed necessary to keep all pols. in the dark. Sound familiar ?

Why Mueller as Speicial Prosecutor ? Knowledge of the players ? Why did Mueller take that job interview with Trump ?

A job unfinished, can be extemely frustrating.

I think parts of this case are still playing out. Hopefully , they'll get it right.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
13. The requirement of disclosure (Brady rule) is not a mere technical issue
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:13 AM
Feb 2018

It's a constitutional right. Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963).

It's disappointing that, more than half a century after Brady was decided, prosecutors are still screwing around with disclosure.

I don't like the Bundy bunch. I don't like the people Mueller is investigating. But even despicable criminal defendants have rights that must be respected.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
6. No, Ms. Peach, you may not use the name "Orange Anus" in the indictment
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:38 AM
Feb 2018

If there really is an army of typists, they are privy to some deep secrets. It must be difficult for them to keep from getting angry and using names like we do on DU.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
22. He will probable be saved for last to make the case
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:27 AM
Feb 2018

100% accurate and foolproof. Many political commentators and attorneys are now saying that the investigation will easily go into 2019. Lots of documentation is what will sink all of them. We only know a very small part of how complicated it is. If Mueller is going to nail Pence and probably Nunes, Rohrabacher and Ryan it will take a long time. Our reward may be getting Pelosi as the interim president until the next legit election in 2020.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
24. Don't we all.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:37 AM
Feb 2018

The topic of conversation at my family's special occasion dinners when we all get together are all about the fucking moron and his admin (3 generations of hatred for him).

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
19. Depends on what they find. Unless he's actually ordered a murder,
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:19 AM
Feb 2018

his successor will probably pardon him, just like Nixon and Agnew were pardoned.

If we start locking up our criminal Presidents, we will end up looking like a banana republic -- even though they deserve it.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
17. Yup. And it's also taking a long time because the corruption has spread its tentacles
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:17 AM
Feb 2018

all over the world, going back for more than a decade, and it's going to take a while to untangle and expose it all.

This will be the biggest mob prosecution ever, I think.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
18. I heard from the pundits on CNN and MSNBC that
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:19 AM
Feb 2018

the investigation will go into 2019. Mueller is being VERY thorough and there are a lot of documents which is the key to making any charges stick. All the money trails in the various countries is endless. I can imagine that Mueller needs a separate warehouse to store the documents on Jared alone. The experts in this field said that they have never seen so much corruption, both political and financial, in any other admin as this one. This will be a whole chapter in future history books.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
29. They also said he will lay off any activity around the midterms so we should expect an uptick over
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:44 AM
Feb 2018

the next couple of months and then a backing off ....then it should pick up again after the midterms and will go into 2019.

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
32. That makes sense. I told two people about the projected timeline
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 03:26 AM
Feb 2018

and you can imagine the gloomy reaction.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
21. You are right about the "poor typists."
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 04:23 AM
Feb 2018

I worked as a paralegal a long time ago, and I still remember how the legal secretaries proofread important documents. They worked together, two to a team, and they proof-read BACKWARDS. Because errors stick out more that way -- our eyes don't just skip over them.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
28. A friend of mine proof read law books while she was in law school
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 01:42 AM
Feb 2018

She worked for a company that published municipal, county, and state codes after new laws were passed. Same thing, they had two person teams that read the things to each other. It was tedious and time consuming and she hated the job.

The one major redeeming factor was that once she finished law school, she passed the bar exam the first time.

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