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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:49 PM Feb 2018

BREAKING: Kushner loses access to top-secret intelligence




Presidential son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner has had his security clearance downgraded — a move that will prevent him from viewing many of the sensitive documents to which he once had unfettered access.

Kushner is not alone. All White House aides working on the highest-level interim clearances — at the Top Secret/SCI-level — were informed in a memo sent Friday that their clearances would be downgraded to the Secret level, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.


The SCI acronym stands for sensitive compartmentalized information, a category of information that comes from sensitive intelligence sources and must be walled off.

The memo was not signed by chief of staff John Kelly, but it comes as the retired Marine general and other top White House aides are grappling with the fallout of a scandal involving former White House staff secretary Rob Porter, which revealed that dozens of White House aides had yet to receive permanent clearances but nonetheless had access to some of the country’s deepest secrets.


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Something is happening, his spokesperson quit, now this, Guess Kushner is going to get the bullet.
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BREAKING: Kushner loses access to top-secret intelligence (Original Post) sunonmars Feb 2018 OP
Oh My - off to the greatest page malaise Feb 2018 #1
This may be the reason for WITCHHUNT tweet Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #2
Yes,mbut still gets to see sensitive docs. Wtfuery? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #8
Was wondering about the crazy Trump tweets today TNLib Feb 2018 #3
He was also doing the tweeting since his darling Hope Hicks was being BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #5
This was due to his "background" BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #4
He should be out of there. Period. sunonmars Feb 2018 #6
Let's face it, they all should be out of there. dchill Feb 2018 #27
Do anyone from the WH or closely affiliated with t-rump and the GOPs Iliyah Feb 2018 #7
Now they'll never be peace in the Middle East. I hope you are all happy. FSogol Feb 2018 #9
You win the internet today! Generic Brad Feb 2018 #15
Oh noes! And he was so close to working out a deal for dad in law to touch the orb a second time! ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #19
He was our last great hope. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #23
Indeed -- you are today's winner. Jared needs to learn to walk on the sunny side. NCjack Feb 2018 #24
Difference between Secret and Top Secret.. HipChick Feb 2018 #10
Trump screwed Kushner, but of course made someone else do it. Thats his MO, always someone else. sunonmars Feb 2018 #11
ROFL maxsolomon Feb 2018 #12
He never should have had it in the first place DFW Feb 2018 #13
A TS/SCI takes a while to adjudicate even when all is perfect Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #14
Given how many times he's had to revise his disclosures mythology Feb 2018 #20
I help and supervise people doing their SF-86s for my job Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #35
I've seen multiple reports that he cannot get a clearance because of shit that is currently happenin NightWatcher Feb 2018 #25
Someone who sought to get back channel access through Russian embassies should have ZERO access AdamGG Feb 2018 #16
Well... not to sound pessimistic here, but tRump will tell him anything he wants to know. Texin Feb 2018 #17
Does anyone seriously think this makes any difference.... Hulk Feb 2018 #18
I keep saying... poboy2 Feb 2018 #21
Shouldnt even be in the WH after lying on his clearance forms Thrill Feb 2018 #22
I had Top Secret Q clearance quartz007 Feb 2018 #26
He has a bunch of financial problems that make him vunerable to blackmail I guess. The_Casual_Observer Feb 2018 #30
The reality is that the President can legally share anything he wants with Kushner, or anyone else. braddy Feb 2018 #31
Yes, I am fully aware of that fact. quartz007 Feb 2018 #34
As someone here said, Trump is letting someone else do the dirty work on Kushner. braddy Feb 2018 #36
Wasn't he also heading up Industrial Innovations and the drug problem too at one time? The_Casual_Observer Feb 2018 #28
He should never have had access to Top Secret/Classified Info in the first place.... Pachamama Feb 2018 #29
Do you actually think PunksMom Feb 2018 #32
Agree. Trump zentrum Mar 2018 #39
about fucking time but the damage is done mnmoderatedem Feb 2018 #33
This tweet says it all! chwaliszewski Feb 2018 #37
Does this even make a difference? zentrum Mar 2018 #38

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
3. Was wondering about the crazy Trump tweets today
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:00 PM
Feb 2018

Now wondering if Kushner is about to go down or if Trump just forgot to take his meds.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
5. He was also doing the tweeting since his darling Hope Hicks was being
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:13 PM
Feb 2018

questioned by the House Intel. CNN said that she gave the "May Day signal" during testimony to signal the Moron that she was under duress and to help her with distractions.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
4. This was due to his "background"
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

but no other info was given for the reason of pulling his clearance. Jake Tapper (CNN) couldn't give any more details for the reason behind it. We know he is financially motivated though ($144 million further in debt this year alone). This is significant enough for Kelly to go through with it given the serious info from the FBI.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Do anyone from the WH or closely affiliated with t-rump and the GOPs
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:16 PM
Feb 2018

have any respect for the rule nor laws, the answer is a big fat No.

JK will still view whatever he wants.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. Oh noes! And he was so close to working out a deal for dad in law to touch the orb a second time!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:24 PM
Feb 2018

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
24. Indeed -- you are today's winner. Jared needs to learn to walk on the sunny side.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:43 PM
Feb 2018

Now that he is deprived of the info needed to perform the many services assigned by Donnie "the chin" (Leader of the GOP mafia), he can focus on renting out space at "Beast" 5th Ave, his flagship.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
14. A TS/SCI takes a while to adjudicate even when all is perfect
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:50 PM
Feb 2018

But at that level they get fast tracked so it should take longer than 6 months.

They just have found some serious issues they can’t resolve yet.

Since he was still on an interim that means he wasn’t denied, indicating that they apparently are still working on it.

But to be on the top of the priority list and be 14+ months in and not done yet means there were a lot of red flags that caused them to dig deeper.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. Given how many times he's had to revise his disclosures
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:25 PM
Feb 2018

somehow conveniently forgetting many ties to foreign entities, it's hardly surprising. The difference is they are used to just being able to snarl orders at terrified underlings and they can't do that here.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
35. I help and supervise people doing their SF-86s for my job
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:42 PM
Feb 2018

I absolutely can’t inagine the nightmare of one like his with so many foreign contacts and business connections and debts.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
25. I've seen multiple reports that he cannot get a clearance because of shit that is currently happenin
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:44 PM
Feb 2018

Then this afternoon news comes out from 4 countries that they have been able to manipulate Jared and his finances.

The trump crime family is actively committing crimes as we speak and they are setting us up so that we cannot defend ourselves from continued attacks in the future.

He needs to be arrested, not just downgraded.

AdamGG

(1,294 posts)
16. Someone who sought to get back channel access through Russian embassies should have ZERO access
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:07 PM
Feb 2018

That's basic.

Texin

(2,597 posts)
17. Well... not to sound pessimistic here, but tRump will tell him anything he wants to know.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:21 PM
Feb 2018

And if he doesn't, Ivanka will.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
18. Does anyone seriously think this makes any difference....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:20 PM
Feb 2018

...to private Bonespurs? Please. That lard ass Jabba the Hut will share EVERYTHING with ANYBODY he wants to.

We have seen REPEATEDLY, this jackass has ZERO disciple and does damn well whatever he pleases. He is the epitome of a spoiled brat. To hell with Anerica and it's rules of law.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
21. I keep saying...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:33 PM
Feb 2018
HAMMER

The WH needs to keep being HAMMERED on this.

ALL those w/failed or provisional clearance MUST GO NOW.

THERE IS NO WORKAROUND.


GO

NOW


National Security is at stake.
 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
26. I had Top Secret Q clearance
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:50 PM
Feb 2018

during my job at a gov't funded laboratory. If I can get that clearance as a foreign born naturalized citizen, I am shocked the president's son-in-law can not get it.

There has to be something bad in Kushner's background. may be smoking ganja? Or contacts with enemies of United States?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
31. The reality is that the President can legally share anything he wants with Kushner, or anyone else.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:56 PM
Feb 2018

The President is the final authority on these matters.

"In fact, the security clearance system itself is an expression of presidential authority. Its scope and operation are defined in an executive order (EO 12968), and its terms can be modified by the President at will.
And if the President wished to grant access to classified information to a family member, for example, there would be no legal barrier to doing so." source-- https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2016/11/clearances-presidential/

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“The president can authorize clearance for anyone he wants,” said Steven Aftergood, director of the project on government secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists. “It’s part of his commander-in-chief role. He has broad, essentially unlimited, access in this area.”
Like anyone else, Mr. Kushner would be subject to a background check by the F.B.I. But the president’s authority is so broad, Mr. Aftergood said, that he could override red flags — like fraud, huge personal debt or ties to foreign governments — that would disqualify other applicants." source-- https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us/politics/jared-kushner-trump-family.html

 

quartz007

(1,216 posts)
34. Yes, I am fully aware of that fact.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:37 PM
Feb 2018

So....if even Donny is afraid to declare Kushner be given top secret clearance, there must be something not kosher behind the curtain.

So Donny has passed the buck to his chief of staff.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
28. Wasn't he also heading up Industrial Innovations and the drug problem too at one time?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:53 PM
Feb 2018

This guy was the one man army in the beginning and now he can't even get a fucking clearance. What a fool.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
29. He should never have had access to Top Secret/Classified Info in the first place....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:54 PM
Feb 2018

It is simply shocking that he and others have been allowed that access to begin with....

Imagine if for the last year, all these people have had the access and have been agents for Russia or another Nation...

PunksMom

(440 posts)
32. Do you actually think
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:02 PM
Feb 2018

this will be enforced? I do t trust anything or anyone associated with that family.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
39. Agree. Trump
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:49 PM
Mar 2018

….will tell him anything and everything.

And the foreign deal makers know it. The potential quid pro quo remains, as far as I can tell.

mnmoderatedem

(3,729 posts)
33. about fucking time but the damage is done
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 08:10 PM
Feb 2018

Gawd only knows what critical intelligence he has been exposed to over the past 1+ years and how vulnerable he is to blackmail.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
38. Does this even make a difference?
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:48 PM
Mar 2018

Trump will just tell him all the inside secrets anyway so that Kushner can go on doing his corrupt deals—with plausible deniability now.

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