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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Powers That Be want him out.
They got their tax cut now. Hes now costing them money and hes destabilizing.
Time to go.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Chemisse
(30,811 posts)My biggest fear is that Mueller will come out with the shocking truth - and the GOP will shrug its collective shoulder.
Trump is destroying our country and he needs to be pulled out of there. All intelligent people should be able to agree on that.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)maxsolomon
(33,335 posts)Where are you getting this?
PCIntern
(25,544 posts)TPTB Enterprises in Langley. I decode it with my Little Orphan Annie ring.
lame54
(35,287 posts)Response to PCIntern (Original post)
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haele
(12,652 posts)The country is even more balkanized, pretty near all our forms of communicating information - including social media, has been discredited - our economy is being seriously compromised, and no one really knows who to trust.
I'd say that even if Putin didn't get his immediate wish list items checked off, he's basically brought this country to its knees, making the U.S. pretty much politically isolated on the world stage for a long enough time that he can set his empire up.
Haele
Hillary would have been their worst nightmare
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The US is weakened and increasingly isolated from its allies.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... be counter-productive to our goals at this point. Right now the White House is about as dysfunctional as it can be. The Meuller Investigation is gaining steam and Tump and his inner circle look about as guilty as they can look. Democrats are winning elections they shouldnt be winning - and I believe Trump is galvanizing that resistance and resolve. His Presidenting style is a National embarrassment - Hell, a global embarrassment. Hes failing to accomplish much that cant be walked back -or at least ameliorated - if congress flips in November.
If Pence takes over, not a single policy change will occur. But the heat will be taken off substantially. The Meuller probe will be neutered (Pence will fire Sessions and install a legitimate AG with an air of respectability, and the probe will be gradually suffocated and sent to the back burner). Pence will put a lip service investigation on the Russian attack, hell hire a no drama staff, and hell take the country in a theocratic direction which will piss off progressives but will not help us GOTV like Trumps madness. Its the gift that keeps on giving - at the polls anyway. Pence will seem tame and republican as usual by comparison. The appearance or normalcy will return.
I understand Trump has to go. But keeping up this insanity until at least the mid-terms is - as much as I hate to say it - probably a winning scenario for us. Ive said before that the only thing worse than a dysfunctional republican administration is a functional republican administration. Jmtc.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Impeachment and removal could have some dire unintended consequences.
Dems need to be smart about this and not jump into the briarpatch.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)No way will the Pukes impeach that SOB.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)So meh!
poboy2
(2,078 posts)And now 'they' are going to use that same power to oust him, we hope.
Existential threat.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)But now theyre going to take down a rogue president?
Riiight ...
poboy2
(2,078 posts)that even this MUST somehow be what TPTB intended. They try to figure out what it portends and how it fits in some plan.
Maybe the mass extermination is about to happen. The culling.
If anything the fact Trump was allowed to happen is the strongest case yet for there being no world organizing PTB -in my opinion.
You've identified one of the problems with conspiracy theories. They don't require rules or logic and can be shaped to fit just about any scenario. And if that doesn't work, the conspiracy theorists just argue that the conspiracists WANTED it to look that way to throw you off the scent.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)like Fox and Hate radio to take him down then. I sure don't see any evidence of that happening, do you?
You may be right but Trump is a Russian asset. He answers to one person only. That person is Vladimir Putin.
Trump ain't goin nowhere without his approval. The PTB should have thought this carnival barker con man for President thing through before they backed him huh?