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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsspeculation: nutberg spends one night in jail for contempt and donnie fires mueller.
donnie uses it as an excuse, saying that investigating is one thing, but putting "good people" in prison is abusing government power and he has to step in and stop it. doesn't want to, really wants to get to the bottom of this russia thing, but someone's gotta stop mueller from throwing some very fine people in prison.
thoughts?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Trump fired Nunberg twice, and Nunberg sued Trump for $10K. Nunberg expressed his dislike for Trump and said he's the most disloyal person ever. I really doubt Trump will do anything to keep Nunberg out of jail.
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(52,227 posts)he's searching for a pretense. he doesn't care about nunberg. i'm just putting out the theory that the foxnews audience would buy a "mueller is a jackbooted thug" argument.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I think hes trying to send signals he needs money for lawyers- and that he might obstruct if protected to do so.
Or hes already cooperating and faking this becasue he doesnt want it publicly known. I kind of wonder about Manafort doing that right now.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)People have been predicting Trump is about to fire Mueller since the investigation began almost a year ago. It still hasn't happened.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)To obstruct to Protect Stone? And obstruct the investigation. Nunberg's hiding his information on Stone for a reason. And refusing for a reason. Mueller probably knows why already, and will accept his refusal with sending him to jail. If trump pardon's him, the Republicans in Congress then will do nothing. Why? The Republican Congress is compromised by Putin.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Risk even more obstruction and riots in the streets because of Nutberg? In fact, I bet he would let Nutberg rot in prison just to show how he values the investigation.
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(52,227 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Yeah, I know what you are saying, but it would be an extremely risky proposition because it would all hinge on making Nutberg out to be a "good guy". I think it's more likely (as was mentioned in another thread) that Mueller set this up to make some other people sweat. And even that is highly unlikely.
kentuck
(111,094 posts)I would agree.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)unblock
(52,227 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)have defend a president in clear obstruction of justice....
more conjecture not worth the effort to discuss
unblock
(52,227 posts)And yes, yes, I know he cant fire him directly, the steps he would have to use to get rid of him have been covered at length in many other threads and dont easily fit in a subject line....
Point is, hes obviously pining and praying for a pretense to get rid of mueller and the investigation. Hes never going to get a legitimate excuse. But at some point he may well try with whatever story he can. Hes getting desperate.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)Very fleshy smirking clickbait.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Isnt it contempt of court? Its a judicial branch thing. Susan McDougal sat for 18 months for refusing to testify (actually for failing to confirm adultery allegations against Bill). No trial, no crime.
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(52,227 posts)i think the difference is that arpaio's thing was over and done with, all in the past.
with a pardon it's over.
but in this case the contempt is ongoing, as long as he refuses to testify or turn over evidence.
a pardon might get him out of punishment for one day of contempt, but does nothing for the next day's contempt.