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Mon Mar 12, 2018, 03:53 PM

David Frum: Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning-Trump Won't Agree

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/555407/?__twitter_impression=true
The Atlantic

Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning—Trump Won't Agree
A normal White House would have rushed to its ally’s defense by now.

David Frum
3:29 PM ET Global


Here’s what would normally happen after an outrage like the attempted murder of a Russian defector and his daughter with a nerve agent, in an attack that also poisoned a British police officer and exposed as many as 500 people to neurological risk.

The United States would instantly offer Britain any technical assistance it might require: forensic chemical analysis, other kinds of information collection.

Next, the U.S. president would reach out to the British prime minister with some visible demonstration of solidarity: typically, a phone call that would be photographed, with a readout of the call distributed to the media. If the British thought it useful, that phone call would be backed up by a visit by some senior member of the administration: the vice president perhaps, or the secretary of state.

The official statement Prime Minister Theresa May offered in the House of Commons today, saying it was “highly likely” Russia was the perpetrator, would be immediately supported by a carefully coordinated statement by the U.S. government, as well as other important allies in an effort led by the United States.

The U.S. would lead the way to forge some kind of common NATO statement, as well as—given the difficulties of Brexit—working to ensure that the European Union demonstrated solidarity, too.

Should the British decide to impose sanctions, the United States would actively cooperate. If the British sanctions, for example, targeted individual Russians, the United States would likely target those same people.

Except for the very first measure—which happens automatically, and which only affirmative presidential action would prevent—none of those normal actions had occurred as of this writing, more than a week after the poisoning. The United Kingdom has been left to deal with this matter alone by a U.S. administration that will not respond, even to a Russian WMD attack on NATO soil.

It’s too early to say that the Trump administration will do nothing. Perhaps it may yet step up. Perhaps it may even calculate that joining the U.K. in sanctions upon Russians implicated in such an outrageous crime may quiet complaints about the Trump administration’s refusal to implement sanctions for Russian meddling in the 2016 election. Those questions remain open. For now, though, we are presented with the most astounding yet Trump default from traditional U.S. alliances and leadership. At Monday’s White House press conference, Sarah Huckabee Sanders rebuffed repeated questions about whether the U.S. even supported the U.K. finding of fact about Russian responsibility.

As the default continues and expands, the evidence accumulates: Trump simply will not act to protect the U.S. and its allies against even Russian aggression, even on their own territory, even in the form of attempted murder.

Trump’s inaction speaks louder than any words. It is a confession for all to hear.

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Reply David Frum: Britain Accuses Russia of Poisoning-Trump Won't Agree (Original post)
babylonsister Mar 2018 OP
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Girard442 Mar 2018 #2
OnDoutside Mar 2018 #3
duforsure Mar 2018 #4
IcyPeas Mar 2018 #5
Hassler Mar 2018 #6
Garion_55 Mar 2018 #7
uponit7771 Mar 2018 #9
LisaM Mar 2018 #8
bronxiteforever Mar 2018 #12
2left4u Mar 2018 #10
keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #11
FarCenter Mar 2018 #13
ornotna Mar 2018 #14
Luz Mar 2018 #15
spanone Mar 2018 #16
IluvPitties Mar 2018 #17
Hekate Mar 2018 #18
duforsure Mar 2018 #19
dgibby Mar 2018 #20

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:00 PM

1. Our allies can't depend on our support

and 95% of countries don't respect us. Thanks to the fucking moron the country's reputation has suffered a lot and even after he is gone it will take a very long time to recover the same level trust that as we had only 11/2 years ago and have had since WW2.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:12 PM

2. Couldnt be clearer that the U.S. is no longer an ally.

Except, of course, to Russia.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:51 PM

3. Russian spies targeting Irish tech companies

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russian-spies-targeting-irish-tech-companies-l2dvpwrjw





Russia’s intelligence services have increased their activities in Ireland to spy on companies involved in the technology, engineering and scientific sectors, according to information gathered by Garda Headquarters.

Russia’s GRU military intelligence agency is now regarded as a national security problem by gardai, as it is believed to be actively gathering information on Irish companies, critical infrastructure projects, and those involved in research at the ESA Space Solutions Centre in Cork.

Gardai are responding to the threat by identifying and disrupting suspected GRU officers working under diplomatic cover. Crime and Intelligence, the force’s spying agency, believes it has thwarted at least one attempt by a GRU procurement officer to buy high-tech equipment in Ireland through a third party.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:04 PM

4. Just more puppet proof.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:13 PM

5. the first 5 words of the article are:

"Here's what would normally happen"....

(sigh) if only things were normal.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:53 PM

6. Traitor Trump doesn't have time...

To defend our UK allies. Committing treason and kissing Putin's ass are full time jobs.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:04 PM

7. THIS white house HAS rushed to its ally's defense.

Putins.

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Response to Garion_55 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:11 PM

9. +1

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:08 PM

8. Of course, he's too busy dealing with the threat of domestic terrorism in Austin, Texas....

oh, wait.....

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Response to LisaM (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:53 PM

12. +10000000

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:19 PM

10. Trump's not stupid

 

Of course he won't he doesn't want to get poisoned himself by the "Big Boss".

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:21 PM

11. "A normal White House"

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:09 PM

13. Without independent data collection, there is no basis for the US to agree or disagree

 

And Porton Down is as good as any US chemical warfare laboratory. Not sure the UK would want US technicians and scientists mucking about.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:30 PM

14. Can't piss off his boss

His cash flow might dry up. He's an effing traitor.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:30 PM

15. As an idiot once proclaimed...

" I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds,”


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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:32 PM

16. this guys been skywriting his affection or fear of putin since his 'election'

i take him at his word

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:33 PM

17. Trump is weak on Russia.

A total weakling when it comes to Putin. He wets his Depends every time Putin calls.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:01 PM

18. Trump shames America every day he remains in office. Deeply. nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:57 AM

19. He has to disagree,

Or admit he's a terrorist with Putin too. The terror laws after 911 should be used now. We have terrorists running this country against us.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:57 AM

20. Trump knows

he and Ivanka are next if they cross Putin.

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