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Just After Tillerson Learned He Was Fired (Original Post) JimGinPA Mar 2018 OP
LOL Gothmog Mar 2018 #1
On speed dial? keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #2
I don't get these guys. Trump treats him horribly, and he still says he appreciates the opportunity. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #3
Tilly had one very important job -- work with congress to get the Russia sanctions removed. NCjack Mar 2018 #4
What makes you think that? Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #5
Tilly was Exxon CEO and did with Putin the biggest oil deal ever in the world. NCjack Mar 2018 #12
While i agree with the thrust of what you are saying, I don't think there was much Tillerson could OnDoutside Mar 2018 #17
I agree. Not much he could do. So, he failed Trump/Putin NCjack Mar 2018 #21
I suspect the sanctions are on the back burner for now, Pompeo will do Trump's bidding as OnDoutside Mar 2018 #22
He got a $180M retirement package. Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #20
He is a CEO lunatica Mar 2018 #6
He did speak one truth: "Trump is a moron." nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #7
True dat lunatica Mar 2018 #8
LOL..n/t Upthevibe Mar 2018 #9
He may not want to talk if he was in on it too !!! OnDoutside Mar 2018 #18
Well if it had gone differently.... magicarpet Mar 2018 #10
Exactly lunatica Mar 2018 #13
Press zero if you have information about criminal activity the President has engaged in. nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #11
He's not going to talk voluntarily and if he is subpeoned it will be mtngirl47 Mar 2018 #14
😹😹😹 Meowmee Mar 2018 #15
Didn't Tillerson receive the Russian Order of Friendship award? He's no friend of America. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #16
Yes he did. And he is an enabler of oil drilling and pollution dumping to the extreme RiverStone Mar 2018 #19

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. I don't get these guys. Trump treats him horribly, and he still says he appreciates the opportunity.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:58 PM
Mar 2018

I guess that's how badly Tillerson wanted the job to add to his credentials. He was Sec'y of State...but not really. He wasn't allowed to do anything or even have a full staff. He was publicly ridiculed. Trump humiliated him in tweets.

Tillerson was a big guy. The head of Exxon. A "friend of Russia" with a medal to prove it. He didn't need this. Why? I don't get it.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
4. Tilly had one very important job -- work with congress to get the Russia sanctions removed.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:12 PM
Mar 2018

Instead, he worked on crap, like tension in Korea, peace in Africa. He just could not focus on the sanctions.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. What makes you think that?
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

The sanctions were never done. Trump didn't need a Secy of State for that.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. Tilly was Exxon CEO and did with Putin the biggest oil deal ever in the world.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:35 PM
Mar 2018

To collect his "thank you" bonus from Exxon, the deal had to go thru. That required the Obama sanctions being revoked. The Sec. of State can walk into the office of any member of congress and talk deals he could make in exchange for votes to remove the sanctions. No other member of the Administration had such access and govt budget to do it. But, it did not happen because Tilley is too timid to sell such enormously corrupt deals. He probably got rebuffed by several important members of congress and was too discouraged to keep trying. So he failed Trump and Putin in their plan to make a lot of money in bring Russian oil to market, and he failed his own self interest to get his Exxon bonus.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
17. While i agree with the thrust of what you are saying, I don't think there was much Tillerson could
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:01 PM
Mar 2018

do, as both he and Trump were outflanked by Congress, who by 496-4 passed the extra sanctions. While Trump has failed to implement those extra sanctions, it meant that he couldn't then unwind the current sanctions. Since that was all Tillerson was clearly there for, he was of no further use.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
21. I agree. Not much he could do. So, he failed Trump/Putin
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 05:54 AM
Mar 2018

and had to be tossed under the bus. Failure is not acceptable. And, when Pompeo fails to get the sanctions lifted, he also will get tossed under the bus. Let's not forget that the Sec. of State has functional authority to make corrupt deals with members of congress that are not possible for the president to make. The Sec. of State is a walking, talking candyman. Not getting deals done means you did not offer enough.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
22. I suspect the sanctions are on the back burner for now, Pompeo will do Trump's bidding as
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:09 AM
Mar 2018

directed by Putin in making the US depowered on the world stage.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. He got a $180M retirement package.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:09 AM
Mar 2018

It's reliant only on his not returning to the oil business for 10 years, is what I read.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. He is a CEO
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

and he has no love for regular people. Lies are highly useful things in his line of business.

Every word out of his mouth is measured. Spontaneous words die before they get to his tongue. He’s as narcissistic as Trump and Putin and he’s now no longer on good terms with them since he didn’t deliver on the oil in the arctic circle. He may be ready to slit his own throat at his failure as CEO of Exxon but he will lie to the bitter end.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. True dat
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:23 PM
Mar 2018

but that was passed on by someone else.

My fervent hope is that Tillersen will want to get even and tell us a few damning things about Trump. It won’t be for the good of our country, of course, but it might just help our country.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
10. Well if it had gone differently....
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:32 PM
Mar 2018

..... and Russian collusion/conspiracy was never investigated because no one suspected a thing. Oh boy .... Oh boy.... Putin, Tillerson, tRdump and their band of thieving bandits would have been very very rich men.

But they couldn't hide the dead bodies and incriminating evidence fast enough. tRdump is used to operating in the shadows without all that pesky oversight and scrutiny so team tRdump inadvertently got caught in the trap of Putin's making.

Of course it was nearly humanly impossible for Putin to conceive what a total asshole he hooked his fortunes to - as a clown such as tRdump.

For all parties concerned - with team Mueller at the helm - and dogged investigatory journalism by some in media - this was a grand exercise in failure and futility. Hopefully with the major players ending up behind bars enjoying their extended incarceration with their assets clawed back by the government.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. Exactly
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:39 PM
Mar 2018

They didn’t count on the well lit scrutiny of their every action. And evidently a year of the unrelenting focus of that light didn’t teach them anything. They just think they can ignore it.

I’m sure they’re convinced it won’t make a difference in their pursuit of wealth.

mtngirl47

(989 posts)
14. He's not going to talk voluntarily and if he is subpeoned it will be
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:53 PM
Mar 2018

like Seargant Schultz--"I see nothing, I know nothing"

Tillerson was bought and paid for and he just got some examples of Putin's payback over in the UK.

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
19. Yes he did. And he is an enabler of oil drilling and pollution dumping to the extreme
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:14 PM
Mar 2018

But if Rex want's to get even with tRump for being treated like shit, I won't complain.

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