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Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:21 PM Jul 2012

Here's a disturbing story

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/When-the-homeless-may-not-be-harmless-3742201.php

When the homeless may not be harmless

If you live in San Francisco you've had one of these encounters: Someone starts ranting as you walk past. Most of us just ignore them. After all, they're harmless.

But Capt. Greg Corrales at the Park Station reminds us that it isn't always that simple. His officers recently made a chilling discovery when they searched the car of a homeless man in Golden Gate Park.

Robert Johns was on their radar, and when they searched his vehicle they found a sawed-off shotgun, a 9mm semiautomatic pistol, 14 knives and more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition, police said.

"The camouflage clothing and survivalist gear isn't illegal," said Officer Elizabeth Prillinger. But as she wrote in her report, "the totality of the circumstances ... suggests that Johns may be preparing to engage in some violent act of unknown dimension."


Disturbing to me that apparently if you own those things *but aren't homeless* then it is perfectly normal. But if you are homeless and keep your weapons in your car (home) then suddenly you are a huge threat.

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Here's a disturbing story (Original Post) Duer 157099 Jul 2012 OP
They become auto weapons Ezlivin Jul 2012 #1
um...that's not what the article is saying ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2012 #2
I understand. But even without that part Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #3
i disagree ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2012 #5
Yes, it was the title that pissed me off the most Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #7
The suspect claiming that he "cut his own umbilical cord" was disturbing too. eom tawadi Jul 2012 #4
You think that a person with a home who rants at passing people wouldn't end up on police radar? lunatica Jul 2012 #6
meanwhile, there are people onethatcares Jul 2012 #8
You have a point but cars are not safe lockups for weaponry. randome Jul 2012 #9

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
1. They become auto weapons
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jul 2012

Which are much more dangerous than non-auto weapons.

I guess that's their reasoning.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
2. um...that's not what the article is saying
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jul 2012

i would agree with your premise were it not for the fact that apparently the person in question in your snippet has been ranting wildly and for little apparent reason...

sP

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
5. i disagree
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jul 2012

but can see where you would get that impression by the general mood toward the homeless among police and city officials. this article simply focuses on the troubled Johns character and his weapons. the article title is a bit shitty, though.

once again...all of this sort seems to lead back to a complete lack of mental healthcare or the stigma that entails...

sP

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
7. Yes, it was the title that pissed me off the most
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jul 2012

The title of course sets the tone for the whole article and that was what I was responding to.

Plus the fact that there seems to be a distinction between where one keeps their arsenal, whether in a house or a car. For the homeless, their car *is* their house.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. You think that a person with a home who rants at passing people wouldn't end up on police radar?
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:37 PM
Jul 2012

And the police would think it's perfectly OK to find those weapons in the ranter's house and not consider the ranter dangerous?

onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
8. meanwhile, there are people
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

with millions of rounds of ammuntion and uncounted weaponry that post rants from the comfortable confines of their
living rooms.

The police don't check them out.

I'm torn on this matter of Robert Johns. The sawed off is a definite no-no, the rest,if they weren't stolen or obtained illegaly, ..............................................that's where the being torn comes in.

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