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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:05 PM Mar 2018

What do you guys think about Jonathan Turley?

I must admit he disappoints me more and more every day as he seems to always side with Trump. Hell, both Rachel and Lawrence don't have him on as an expert anymore. Has he truly gone over to the Dark Side?

Law Prof: McCabe Firing Suggests Comey Lied to Congress While Under Oath (WATCH)


Constitutional law Professor Jonathan Turley believes Andrew McCabe‘s firing could signal legal trouble ahead for former FBI director James Comey.

Appearing on CNN Saturday morning with host Michael Smerconish, Turley was asked to opine as to whether any potential criminal penalties could result from the McCabe affair and if so, why.

Smerconish’s guest was more than happy to oblige. After briefly discussing McCabe’s potential liability for allegedly misleading investigators, the liberal law professor shifted gears and started discussing how Comey fits into all of the drama and intrigue.

Turley noted, “This could easily spin further out of control. There was one line in the case statement last night that I immediately flagged. Because he said that he had authority to do this and he conferred with the director—the director at the time was James Comey.” Turley continued:

Now, the problem there is that James Comey said under oath that he never leaked information and never approved a leak. So, if the Inspector General believes this was a leak to the media, it raises serious questions about Comey’s previous testimony and could get him into serious trouble.




https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/law-prof-mccabe-firing-suggests-comey-lied-to-congress-while-under-oath/
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What do you guys think about Jonathan Turley? (Original Post) CatWoman Mar 2018 OP
He's a regular on Fox news, so I no longer expect much. dchill Mar 2018 #1
He went to the dark side some years ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #2
Turley has always been an actor. jaysunb Mar 2018 #3
Maybe it wasn't a leak. Maybe it was an approved sharing of information. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #4
Hes a asshole and water carrier for the GOP emulatorloo Mar 2018 #5
I think he wants to be a Dershowitz-like contrarian... hlthe2b Mar 2018 #6
Libertarian seeking long-term attention. Enjoys solitary walks in the limelight. struggle4progress Mar 2018 #7
Never a favorite... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #8
During the Clinton years when Turley was first promoting himself DURHAM D Mar 2018 #9
He defended trumps muslim ban JI7 Mar 2018 #10
McCabe was fired for actions injurious to DEMOCRATS. Hortensis Mar 2018 #11
Has always been a loose cannon jerk UTUSN Mar 2018 #12
I have no idea how he can be posed as a liberal Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #13
The idiots who are the denizens of JPR always loved the guy stevenleser Mar 2018 #14
Yep. nt SunSeeker Mar 2018 #15
Nuff said ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #16
Dislike 👎💩 NurseJackie Mar 2018 #17
Anti-Obama, anti-Clinton, and anti-Muslim? What's not to love? Iggo Mar 2018 #18
He is a Trumper. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #19
My experience is that Jonathon Turley, Volaris Mar 2018 #20
You know who he reminds me of? Tatiana Mar 2018 #21
Not much. Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #22
I dislike his public persona, and I know one person (a friendly client) who knows him personally... herding cats Mar 2018 #23
Interesting. Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #24
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
4. Maybe it wasn't a leak. Maybe it was an approved sharing of information.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:11 PM
Mar 2018

It will depend on whether the right channels and approvals were obtained.

McCabe stated that he always went through the right procedures before providing information to the public.

We shall see. But if the procedures are followed and approvals obtained as required by the rules, it isn't a leak.

I'm guessing that is what the argument is about.

Comey was in charge. He could have been authorized to approve publications of information. I don't know.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
6. I think he wants to be a Dershowitz-like contrarian...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:13 PM
Mar 2018

and thus get more bookings. Annoys me. He only seems to hold onto his strict legal-based comments (as opposed to injecting 'beliefs') about half the time now.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
7. Libertarian seeking long-term attention. Enjoys solitary walks in the limelight.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:13 PM
Mar 2018

Free monologue available. Serious inquiries only please

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
8. Never a favorite...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:15 PM
Mar 2018

...pro impeachment of Clinton, but going easy on Trump? There is really no comparison in their level of criminal activity.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
9. During the Clinton years when Turley was first promoting himself
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:19 PM
Mar 2018

as a constitutional law professor I was often around actual real constitutional law professors. They made fun of him all of the time repeating shit he said and laughing as his pronouncements.

As for his comment about Comey it is drivel. Part of McCabe's job was to talk to the press. Comments were approved in advance. McCabe's problem is not that he was leaking, his problem is that when asked about number of times, who he talked to, etc. he was not forthcoming with all the info.

IOWs - it is not about the action, it is about his coverup.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. McCabe was fired for actions injurious to DEMOCRATS.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:35 PM
Mar 2018

He should have been fired last year. The fact that Trump is too much of a malicious dingdong to join his party in covering up and protection of their crimes does not excuse McCabe's crimes.

So, WHERE THE HELL IS THIS SPIN THAT'S TAKEN OVER DU COMING FROM? Take a couple guesses as long as you're looking right and you're sure to be correct at least once. McCabe is no poor, innocent victim. He has powerful protectors (who are also protecting themselves), the effects of which we are watching on TV and clearly seeing right here, but he could still go to prison for actual crimes related to misuse of his position to betray the People of the United States.

Comey also. Apparently they told conflicting stories under oath directly relating to the actions being investigated.

In January 2018, the OIG's said its report on the investigation of Comey would be released this month or next.

Turley's a jerk, and the first good thing I can say about him in some time is that he does not seem to be cooperating with the protection of McCabe, Comey and anyone they may have been conspiring with. But anyone with an opinion on this topic should already know enough from OTHER sources to be able to properly assess what he's saying.

Btw, I didn't watch Rachel last night, but O'Donnell's guest(s) explained the 2017 recommendations on which McCabe was finally maliciously fired by Trump in addition to deploring the manner of the firing. Brian Williams' guests expressed outrage that such a fine public servant was so terribly victimized.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
13. I have no idea how he can be posed as a liberal
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:45 PM
Mar 2018

Decades ago when he first made the cable news programming he was always taking the conservative side. He made me sick.

I didn't much care when he appeared to switch later. As always...big picture above details. Everything tends to drift back to the beginning.

ismnotwasm

(41,980 posts)
16. Nuff said
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 09:09 PM
Mar 2018

So deep in the shadow of the internet you can’t tell they are there, but there are useful in their consistent support of assholes.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
20. My experience is that Jonathon Turley,
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 11:41 PM
Mar 2018

Is much more impressed with Jonathon Turley than I've ever been.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
21. You know who he reminds me of?
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:42 AM
Mar 2018

Ryan and McConnell and Nunes and all these other Republicans that Putin is apparently blackmailing.

Somebody must have something on him. He used to be very good and provided sound legal analysis. Now he just flat out doesn't make sense and it seems like he is twisting himself into a pretzel to draw some of the conclusions he espouses.

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
22. Not much.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:50 AM
Mar 2018

Repub. and that's all I need to know. BTW, I have done at least one job in his offices. Didn't meet him. I don't necessarily have to like or dislike everybody I work with. (I'm a freelancer in the legal field, and not a lawyer.)

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. I dislike his public persona, and I know one person (a friendly client) who knows him personally...
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 01:01 AM
Mar 2018

They say they prefer not to be around him anymore. Which is kind of rare. Usually your friends from before you turned stand up for you and say it’s a phase, a means to make money or at least that you’re pleasant in private.

Apparently he drank long and deep of the koolaid and converted fully.

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
24. Interesting.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 01:31 AM
Mar 2018

They wanted me to work for them at one point. In house guy (doing what I do, which I'd rather not say on a public forum). Didn't work out, but that was a time when he had a good plaintiffs firm and I thought it might be a good fit. Well, I'm glad it never happened. He started to turn to the dark side and I lost all respect for him and his firm.

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