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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:05 PM Mar 2018

I wasted all morning chasing ghosts on Facebook. Facebook is not the enemy, folks. Google is.

So today I get a news report from CNN on my cellphone telling me all the reasons why I needed to check my Facebook Page for all the potential privacy violations, that I undoubtedly have that I'm not aware of, and they named them and how I could clean it all up. So I made a bunch of notes from the cell phone (it took a while because the page kept going out) and then logged into my Facebook account. Well the first place i went to was the Apps settings because that is more likely where I expected to find most of the issues. That is where CNN informed me was all the hidden places evil people could invade my space because I may have once upon a time made a reservation using my Facebook USER ID. I couldn't recall ever doing so but the CNN article said that I could have things that I didn't even know about like if I had used my Facebook User ID in the place of another User ID and then I started thinking, Yes I might have done that before. You know when you go to post a comment to an article in the Washington Post and you can't remember your WP User ID because you don't use it very often and you forgot but they will allow you to use another User ID. Okay, yes I've done that. So I was surprised that I had about 10 APPS to things I never expected to have. Mostly newspapers or magazines, Facebook and Pintrest.

To make a long story short, I spent several hours making notes of where to find what, and how to delete things and what to do if I can't delete them, and reading that it might take months for things to actually be removed that I delete today, In the end, I found nothing that I found to be an invasion of my privacy, except a previous birthday notice that revealed my actual birthdate. No links to credit card data, no account information, no Driver's License Info, home address, etc.

I've had more personal stuff revealed about me on Zillow and Realtor.com and Google than I found on Facebook. FTR, you might want to do a search of your name on Google, because there are some companies that are compiling a lot of information about you and your family and they are offering it for sale to you, and who knows who else. I'm talking about your age, address, previous home addresses, children's names, children's ages, spouse's name, traffic tickets you've received, arrests, marital status, my neighbor's names, my neighbor's address, etc. These are the people I'm concerned of. I came across one of these websites while looking for something else, and I was surprised how accurate the information they had on me was, and they reveal much of this information without you even buying it. The one company that stood out was Nuwber.com because it displayed so much of my personal information. They don't allow you to see all the information they have on you, but they show you enough information that is accurate, and then they ask you do you want to purchase the information that they have in your file to make sure that it is accurate. As I said, these are the people we should be concerned about who are violating your privacy. Facebook, I'm not so concerned about. I would encourage everyone to Google your name, and look for the website that comes up that begins with Nuwber.com and see how much information that they provide on you, your family and your neighbors.

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I wasted all morning chasing ghosts on Facebook. Facebook is not the enemy, folks. Google is. (Original Post) politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 OP
Your "personal information" -- address, birthday, age, etc. -- isn't valuable precisely because it's WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #1
My voting record has much more info LeftInTX Mar 2018 #2
As pointed out above, it's not about your personal information jberryhill Mar 2018 #3
I agree with what you've said, but the CNN Money article that had me taking a look at my politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #6
I don't do facebook, but... trof Mar 2018 #4
The specific things you mention aren't really private. Mariana Mar 2018 #5
See my post #6 above. politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #7
You mentioned a number of items that are available in public record. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #8
What site did you use? Control-Z Mar 2018 #9
The Nuwber.com is the generic part of the website. If you google your name, a bunch of politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #10

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
1. Your "personal information" -- address, birthday, age, etc. -- isn't valuable precisely because it's
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
Mar 2018

so easy to get. What is valuable are your preferences and your behavior -- what you like, what you comment on, the kinds of words you use when commenting on a picture someone else has posted (what's in the picture that goes with your comment? how does it affect what you say?), what you tend to do when other people do other things. That is where the gold is hidden.

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
2. My voting record has much more info
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:15 PM
Mar 2018

My age and phone number were wrong on nuwber.com. My voting record has my actual birth date. It had my daughter's cell number instead of mine and it has our landline. Nuwber had a phone number that is not even remotely related to any number in our family.

Voting records are available to campaigns. They have your address, birth date, when you voted and which primaries you voted in.

Voting records are gold mines, but CA wanted to supplement the grunt work of hunting down swing voters and decided on psychometrics instead.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. As pointed out above, it's not about your personal information
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:16 PM
Mar 2018

It's psychological information about your behavior. That's where the value is.

I believe you may have missed the point about what CA has been up to.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
6. I agree with what you've said, but the CNN Money article that had me taking a look at my
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:01 PM
Mar 2018

Facebook account this morning seemed to me to be more geared towards the vulnerability from unwittingly giving 3rd parties access to your financial information through ways you would not have thought about. For instance using a vendor who allows me to reserve a hotel room and use my Facebook account as a User ID to access my hotel account information might put my credit card information at risk, for example. Or if I log onto the Washington Post for example to comment on a news article and the newspaper allows me to use either my Wash Post User ID or accepts my Facebook User ID that I might be putting my bank account info that the Wash Post uses for my subscription payments at risk. I had originally included this info in my original post but I deleted it because I thought it made the post too long, but that article definitely was geared towards the financial aspect of the your personal data. But I do understand the psychological aspect of what these groups like CA are doing, believe me.

trof

(54,256 posts)
4. I don't do facebook, but...
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:36 PM
Mar 2018

I'm on linkedin because a friend asked me to join him a few years back. I'm almost 77, retired, and don't really have anything or anybody to link up with.
But he was a friend, so I did.

I'm on twitter because I wanted to see what Sarah Silverman was up to.
She's a friend of my daughter and I knew her when they were in high school.
Oh, and I like her.

When I finally got an android phone that I could text with, it seemed like I had to download a Google app to see or do some stuff.
Whatever.

NOW...They've got my number.
I look at a motel website as a possible place to stay, and ads for that motel pop up on damn near every webpage for the next several days.

Looked at some shoes online and the same thing.

Buy something from Amazon?
Get emails for days later "People who bought this ALSO looked at..."

We're basically fucked.
"They" know everything there is to know about us. And now even how to tweak (some of) us to vote how they want us to.

Did I mention that we're basically fucked?
Because we are.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
5. The specific things you mention aren't really private.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 06:45 PM
Mar 2018

Most or all of that stuff can be found in public records. Public records are just that - everyone has access to them. The information in them was always available for anyone who was interested in looking for it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. You mentioned a number of items that are available in public record.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 07:14 PM
Mar 2018

Most of the sites one would pay to gather the information also have a robust social media search.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. What site did you use?
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 10:33 PM
Mar 2018

I just tried Nuwber.com and it told me nothing. I expected something. I'm not sure what. But all it showed were prior cities I'd lived in and family members names. That is it.

No, wait. It did have a little alert box that said I had some highly valued assets - which is news to me.

That's it. I haven't had a ticket in over 20 years so it didn't even show a traffic ticket. I stopped there.

I'm not about to give them my email address. Then I will have given them information they possibly don't already have. Lol.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
10. The Nuwber.com is the generic part of the website. If you google your name, a bunch of
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 11:59 PM
Mar 2018

search websites will come up with a variety of names. There will be many websites but one of them should be Nuwber.com/abcdefghijk (with a bunch of characters behind it). There will be many websites, but that one had the most information related to me and the information was quite accurate so I used that as my example. If you google your own name, I would assume that website would be one of many with your personal info but I suspect that one would have a lot of specific info about you, because it did about me, and is the one I selected for use as an example of how much of your personal information these websites have on you. For me it showed my full name and address, my children's names, my age, my date of birth, my neighbor's names and addresses. (I live on a cul-de-sac and there are about 8 other families). Your info may vary, but I just used this as an example, because these websites have your personal information and a lot of it is quite accurate. What gives them the right to store that information. They don't reveal all information that they have on you, but they will let you see the rest of your file for a price to check it for accuracy. My initial question was why should they be allowed to compile your information.

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