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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:23 AM Mar 2018

Lets ban all guns right now and let the gun lovers be the ones seeking incremental changes

Whenever gun laws are proposed, the result is at best a tiny, incremental gain in putting a stop to the violence.

So how about we reverse the process? Simply ban gun ownership by private citizens right now. If people want to own guns, let them be the ones seeking incremental change in the law. Let them be the ones proposing, oh, allowing people to own single-shot air rifles. Then, if a decade passes and no one has been killed, propose allowing people to own multi-shot air rifles. And on and on it would go. Maybe in 50 years they’re allowed to own a hand gun that can fire a single bullet, and price that bullet at $500.

In the meanwhile, the carnage pretty much stops.

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Lets ban all guns right now and let the gun lovers be the ones seeking incremental changes (Original Post) stopbush Mar 2018 OP
That is what the right wing wants us to say blake2012 Mar 2018 #1
I do not like that idea Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #2
Ohhhh, how I wish. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #3
It's been my dream my entire life Tumbulu Mar 2018 #4
Best idea Ive heard so far! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #5
I do like the juxtaposition that you propose. OhioBlue Mar 2018 #6
Given the obvious lack of a "well-regulated militia" the US Constitution demands it. They're illegal DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #7
When in American history has militia membership been an absolute prerequisite for the private... Marengo Mar 2018 #16
That's an excellent idea. Let them prove why they need them. Vinca Mar 2018 #8
Um, how do you suppose MichMary Mar 2018 #9
Its a matter of interpreting the Constitution. stopbush Mar 2018 #12
Simply ban guns, yeah thats the ticket. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #10
Best Plan Yet! rgbecker Mar 2018 #11
Banned like in Jamaica? EX500rider Mar 2018 #13
If that cant happen I say treat like a car license marlakay Mar 2018 #14
Lolright. We banned heroin, so ODs have pretty much stopped, right? X_Digger Mar 2018 #15
LOL! Want epic non-compliance and a death-blow to furture gun control efforts? Marengo Mar 2018 #17
 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
1. That is what the right wing wants us to say
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:27 AM
Mar 2018

We simply do not have the political climate for anything of the sort. There are many terrific things we can propose be passed as legislation short of total bans which will help immensely.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
3. Ohhhh, how I wish.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:47 AM
Mar 2018

Personally, if I were in charge, all guns would be confiscated. If you hunt, you can check out a gun at the gun place to go hunting. Then you return it.

Short of outright confiscation, we need to implement incremental restrictions on guns, so that some years from now almost no one will have a gun. I understand that's what happened in Japan after WWII. And it worked.

Oh, and in Australia after that awful killing spree in Tasmania, they took guns away, and isn't it quite odd that no other mass killing has happened there?

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
4. It's been my dream my entire life
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:48 AM
Mar 2018

But like universal healthcare, does not appear to be in the cards. How it is that it is so hard to simply ban the semi automatic weapons and bump stops...... just blows my mind!

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
6. I do like the juxtaposition that you propose.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 01:56 AM
Mar 2018

While I realize it will never happen, and I wouldn't actually support a complete ban, I do appreciate the proposal that points out how when one side is completely uncompromising it leads to a situation where one side is left feeling completely perplexed at how to actually compromise.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
16. When in American history has militia membership been an absolute prerequisite for the private...
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:14 PM
Mar 2018

Possession of firearms?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
12. Its a matter of interpreting the Constitution.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:17 AM
Mar 2018

SCOTUS Justice Warren Burger’s interpretation of the Second Amendment should be adopted.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
10. Simply ban guns, yeah thats the ticket.
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 08:56 AM
Mar 2018

I dare any politician to run in that. Watch them disappear after the next election.

EX500rider

(10,845 posts)
13. Banned like in Jamaica?
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 11:56 AM
Mar 2018

Jamaica. Guns are pretty much outlawed and enforcement is Draconic.

Jamaica has one of the highest murder rates in the world.

OTOH, Japan is runner up for the strictest gun control laws, and they have one of the lowest homicide rates in the world.

In both cases, the homicide rates predate the gun control laws and the homicide rates did not change when the gun control laws changed. You can find many other countries for which the same is true. This is one of the many strands of evidence that suggest gun control laws do not influence homicide rates.



https://www.quora.com/What-countries-have-the-strictest-gun-control-laws-How-has-it-affected-their-crime-rates

marlakay

(11,464 posts)
14. If that cant happen I say treat like a car license
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:05 PM
Mar 2018

Must have insurance, take test, be on national data bank. And if anyone thinks a person would be dangerous having one, don’t give them a license and force them to go to court proving they won’t be a problem.

And how about can’t keep in a home with kids under 18. Must keep gun locked up at a gun center.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
15. Lolright. We banned heroin, so ODs have pretty much stopped, right?
Sun Mar 25, 2018, 12:07 PM
Mar 2018


You go ahead and work on that constitutional change. I'll wait with bated breath.
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