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kentuck

(111,094 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:09 PM Mar 2018

How do we explain Trump expelling 60 Russians out of our country?

Since he has done nothing up to this point to show any concern for what Russia has done, including messing with elections and poisoning people on allies soil?

Is he trying to prove how tough he is or was this someone else's idea? The report did not come directly from him - it came from Sarah H Sanders, his White House Spokesperson. He has not tweeted about it or issued any comment.

Some are reporting that if he really wanted to get tough with Russia, he would sanction the oligarchs that are still making money off their American connections?

What's the real story behind this report?

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How do we explain Trump expelling 60 Russians out of our country? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2018 OP
pennies on the dollar NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #1
Their job is done SHRED Mar 2018 #2
He probably owed them money. dameatball Mar 2018 #3
Is this part of the sanctions that were snuck into the Omnibus bill? -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #4
"Donald, once in a while we have to pretend we don't like each other. Capice?" dalton99a Mar 2018 #5
putin gave permission. he knew trump had to do something. spanone Mar 2018 #6
Distraction to kill the 60 minute interview post game talk Johonny Mar 2018 #7
"Putin doesn't care about Russian diplomats in the United States" MGKrebs Mar 2018 #8
Big announcement last week from FBI/IC about Russia hacking our infrastructure-nuclear power grid wishstar Mar 2018 #9
Maybe not all of them. pdxflyboy Mar 2018 #10
to me, this is just some pantomime theater piece pooty and trump are playing. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #11
Small stuff smokescreen. It paves the way for the Exxon 1/2 trillion dollar oasis Mar 2018 #12
He doesn't want Mueller to question them? MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #13
I don't think he could do that anyhow - diplomatic immunity. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #19
I see. MrsCoffee Mar 2018 #22
If he sanctions the Russian oligarchs making money off their American connections DFW Mar 2018 #14
Hell. Putin was okay with some of his mercenaries dying in a US airstrike in Syria. tonyt53 Mar 2018 #15
A distraction ... stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #16
Bit of a mystery matt819 Mar 2018 #17
Expelling diplomats is basically a symbolic gesture. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #18
True but Trump waited 12 days to follow suit with the UK apnu Mar 2018 #21
Definitely. And Trump himself hasn't said a word about any of it. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #23
We know he's awake and paying attention to things. apnu Mar 2018 #24
meaningless. not the same as hard SANCTIONS. blake2012 Mar 2018 #20

Johonny

(20,849 posts)
7. Distraction to kill the 60 minute interview post game talk
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:17 PM
Mar 2018

Since Europe was doing a similar purge, it was right place, right time to mitigate personal damage for 24 hrs.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
8. "Putin doesn't care about Russian diplomats in the United States"
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:18 PM
Mar 2018

"he doesn't need them in America to get information on us. He's hacked into our infrastructure, has other agents throughout the country and is manipulating our information flow to influence the American people. Neither we, nor any of our allies who may take action together, should be fooled by his empty denials."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/opinions/presidential-weekly-briefing-isis-opinion-vinograd/index.html

In other words, expelling Russian diplomats is apparently like sending thoughts and prayers.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
9. Big announcement last week from FBI/IC about Russia hacking our infrastructure-nuclear power grid
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:18 PM
Mar 2018

Reports indicated that Russian hackers had infiltrated many of our most vital facilities and probably military as well. Trump was forced to respond. The report from FBI last week on top of the poisoning overseas put a lot of pressure on WH.

pdxflyboy

(675 posts)
10. Maybe not all of them.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:18 PM
Mar 2018

I keep thinking that there may be two or three thousand more that he knows about, and is NOT expelling.

oasis

(49,382 posts)
12. Small stuff smokescreen. It paves the way for the Exxon 1/2 trillion dollar
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:22 PM
Mar 2018

deal to go through after sanctions are lifted at a later date.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
14. If he sanctions the Russian oligarchs making money off their American connections
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:25 PM
Mar 2018

He might do so to his financial detriment. He could well be getting a cut of those transactions. If so, those are the last people he's going to sanction.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
15. Hell. Putin was okay with some of his mercenaries dying in a US airstrike in Syria.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:28 PM
Mar 2018

He is fine with this move. Besides, he likely handpicked every one of them to be expelled. Putin has trump playing by his playbook.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
17. Bit of a mystery
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:36 PM
Mar 2018

However. . .

How many of these Russians were at the end of their tours? If this was the case - end of tour anyway - then the next question is whether their replacements will be allowed. IOW, are these expulsions going to reduce the Russian presence in the US?

Let's assume that some of these Russians were running assets in the US. Their presence in the US is irrelevant as long as they have the ability to communicate - receive tasking and report back. The Russians clearly have been playing a very long game and would be prepared for this eventuality.

And, finally, I have no doubt that this was done in response to Russian direction. Even an obvious Russian asset, as Trump undoubtedly is, has to at least pay lip service to being his own man. Of course, half the country doesn't believe this in the slightest. But narcissist that he is, he thinks he's pulling one over on us.

Pure theater.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
18. Expelling diplomats is basically a symbolic gesture.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:39 PM
Mar 2018

It's just farting in their general direction. Since a bunch of other countries were doing the same thing at the same time it was easy enough to go along with the crowd without offending BFF Putin too much.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
21. True but Trump waited 12 days to follow suit with the UK
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:45 PM
Mar 2018

This, again, shows how slow and ill equipped the Trump Administration is with any crisis.

His WH was slow to react to two hurricanes and the wild fires in CA. His administration was slow to react or say anything when Charlottesville descended into a shitshow. His administration was slow to say anything about the mass shootings in Vegas and at Stoneman Douglas HS.

This clown is pathetic.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
24. We know he's awake and paying attention to things.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 03:04 PM
Mar 2018

Because he spends hours per day in "executive time" live tweeting his rage as he watches Fox News.

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
20. meaningless. not the same as hard SANCTIONS.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

when many western powers are banding together to essentially say Russia committed chemical warfare on BRITISH SOIL, it would be hard for Trump to be seen not acting in the interests of our allies.

Also, FUCK TRUMP

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