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madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:23 PM Mar 2018

Dr. Jackson: Another "Yes Man"

This is where we are. Lie for Trump, get a promotion.

Jackson has revealed himself to be an ass kisser. He won't be there for the Veterans. He will serve Trump, not the men and women who served to protect our nation.

Another day, another pity.

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Dr. Jackson: Another "Yes Man" (Original Post) madaboutharry Mar 2018 OP
I feel despair also,but it is actually a sign that the cupboard is juust about bare dameatball Mar 2018 #1
I'm torn between that fact as either a silver lining or our point of demise as a civilization. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #3
An important voting block for the Republicans exboyfil Mar 2018 #2
The good news tazkcmo Mar 2018 #26
Jesus. The one who lied about porky's weight and shit? CurtEastPoint Mar 2018 #4
He doesn't have any experience managing a large bureaucracy, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #5
does congress have to give it's blessings? spanone Mar 2018 #6
Yes, he'll have to be confirmed. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #8
well, that's something. spanone Mar 2018 #10
As a Rear Admiral, he does have some bureaucratic experiance. haele Mar 2018 #13
While usually you are correct Sgent Mar 2018 #37
Isn't he the one who said tRump was 239 lbs? MiniMe Mar 2018 #7
Could be. No way does Trump weight 239 lbs. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #19
Exactly. MiniMe Mar 2018 #22
True enough, but the good Doctor said just that . . . hatrack Mar 2018 #34
Why did President Obama appoint him as his White House doctor? former9thward Mar 2018 #9
perhaps, and I say only, perhaps onethatcares Mar 2018 #14
He appointed him because he was a good doctor and good officer. former9thward Mar 2018 #20
Maybe he's a very good doctor. His CV is pretty impressive The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #17
He appointed him to be his personal doctor. former9thward Mar 2018 #21
He said Trump weighs 239 lbs. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #24
Bush appointed him, not Obama. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #30
Try again. former9thward Mar 2018 #31
Because that was a position open and the Rear Admiral was a candidate for it. haele Mar 2018 #18
He didn't. Bush appointed him in 2006. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #29
Nope. former9thward Mar 2018 #32
Since he'll be under oath, at his confirmation, someone should ask him about Cheeto's real weight Hassler Mar 2018 #11
So who will DT hire to be the WH doctor? LiberalFighter Mar 2018 #12
Well Trump trusted him to stick his finger up his ass. rickford66 Mar 2018 #15
I think Trump's hiring process has just 3 questions on it. Initech Mar 2018 #16
He was appointed by President Obama to be his personal doctor. former9thward Mar 2018 #23
Obama kept him on on account of his expertise as a doctor The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #25
Exactly - Dr Yes. dchill Mar 2018 #27
Running a multi-billion $$ organization might be a challenge for him. SharonAnn Mar 2018 #28
He'll be another Ben Carson. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #33
A WH official just admitted Jackson was chosen because Trump liked him on TV. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #35
yesssssssSIR, you weigh 239 pounds, oh yes you DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Skittles Mar 2018 #36
We need a Democratic Cha Mar 2018 #38
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
3. I'm torn between that fact as either a silver lining or our point of demise as a civilization. -nt
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
Mar 2018

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
2. An important voting block for the Republicans
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
Mar 2018

If they screw it up, it could really suck for them. I would hate for the veterans to go through that.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
26. The good news
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:57 PM
Mar 2018

It would be difficult to mess up the VA anymore than it is now. While the front line nurses, volunteers and surgeons are dedicated and caring, the administration of this agency sucks.

My experiences with the VA have convinced me to never go back.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
5. He doesn't have any experience managing a large bureaucracy,
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 06:31 PM
Mar 2018

and the VA is the second-largest government agency. He's just a Navy officer and a doctor with a background in emergency medicine and he has never managed anything larger than the White House Medical Unit. He's no more qualified to head up the VA than Ben Carson is to manage HUD.

But people get hired by Trump, regardless or qualifications, if he knows them and especially if they've done him a favor. "Hey, Doc, I might have a Cabinet opening pretty soon; you interested? And, by the way, how much did you say I weigh?"

haele

(12,652 posts)
13. As a Rear Admiral, he does have some bureaucratic experiance.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

At that level of officer (O-7), his medical expertise has become second to his ability to run a large department in a hospital, medical training facility, or at medical research facility. After the rank of Commander (O-5), military medical doctors pretty much quit "practice" and start being in charge of clinics.
However, due to the fact that he's the head WH doctor instead of being on the executive staff in BUMED or in a major Pentagon policy or executive management position, I'm still pretty sure that running the VA - which, BTW, encompasses much more than VA medical - is much more than he thinks he can handle.

Haele

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
37. While usually you are correct
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 02:41 AM
Mar 2018

he hasn't overseen anything larger than the WH medical office (which is actually a descent sized clinic / service). He was given the WH office as his second command as an O-6 and promoted in office -- he's been there for almost 12 years.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
14. perhaps, and I say only, perhaps
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:16 PM
Mar 2018

he hadn't sold his soul at that time.

Should we blame President Obama for this? Really?

What do you think?

Why did President Obama appoint him as his White House doctor?

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
20. He appointed him because he was a good doctor and good officer.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

So I won't endorse the smears and I doubt President Obama would either.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
17. Maybe he's a very good doctor. His CV is pretty impressive
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:20 PM
Mar 2018

in terms of medical qualifications. Also, he's a Navy rear admiral - most WH physicians have been military officers, since they are in charge of the White House Medical Unit, a unit of the White House Military Office responsible for the medical needs of the President, the VP and the White House staff. Being a capable doctor doesn't mean someone can't be bought, too.

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
21. He appointed him to be his personal doctor.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:30 PM
Mar 2018

By attacking Jackson with no evidence President Obama is being attacked. I reject those attacks. Present the evidence of his "being bought".

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
31. Try again.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:30 PM
Mar 2018

Bush appointed him to the White House medical staff. Obama appointed him to be his personal physician.

haele

(12,652 posts)
18. Because that was a position open and the Rear Admiral was a candidate for it.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:20 PM
Mar 2018

He had the medical experience, and was apparently very personable. This is a job that requires more of a compatible personality with the White House Staff, President, and his family than leadership or management ability.
He was also probably one of the more higher ranking people applying (honestly, I would think that this would be more of an O-5/O-6 position or a position for someone who is close to retirement), and that might have been a deciding factor.

Haele

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
32. Nope.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:36 PM
Mar 2018

Obama didn't just "keep him". He appointed him to be his personal physician. You know, the one who personally examined Obama and gave the press details on Obama's health. That guy.

He has served as White House physician during the past three administrations and was the appointed physician to the president for President Obama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson

Initech

(100,070 posts)
16. I think Trump's hiring process has just 3 questions on it.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:19 PM
Mar 2018

1. Are you the most dangerously unqualified person for the job?

2. Did you vote for Trump?

3. Are you willing to lie your ass off for Trump?

If you answer yes to all 3 of these questions, you're in! And don't forget the initiation process!

former9thward

(32,003 posts)
23. He was appointed by President Obama to be his personal doctor.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:32 PM
Mar 2018

I doubt any of the smears against him. President Obama would not have appointed such a person to a position like that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
25. Obama kept him on on account of his expertise as a doctor
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 07:38 PM
Mar 2018

and also because the position generally requires a military officer because that person is the director of a unit of the White House Military Office. And he's not just the president's personal physician; he's the in-house doctor for the entire WH staff. He could be an excellent doctor and still someone who could be tempted to fudge facts to please the boss. That sort of thing happens all the time. Do you really think Trump weighs only 239 lbs., a weight which, coincidentally enough, is only 1 lb. below clinical obesity? That tub of lard has to weigh at least 280.

Obama didn't appoint him; he was a holdover from the Bush administration. Bush appointed him in 2006.

By the way, Obama also appointed David Shulkin as the previous VA secretary, and it turned out he was playing fast and loose with travel expenses. Obama isn't responsible for every appointee's character lapses, which can't always be predicted.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
28. Running a multi-billion $$ organization might be a challenge for him.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 08:27 PM
Mar 2018

Doctors don't often have good management skills, especially for large organization. I know there are many running hospitals or hospital chains, but i don't think he has this experience.

Going to be a challenge for him.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
33. He'll be another Ben Carson.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:40 PM
Mar 2018

Competent at his actual medical career but inexperienced and poorly suited to run a huge government agency. I hope he doesn't turn out to be as bad as Carson because the VA is enormous and has a lot of internal problems but and a lot of vets depend on it for medical and other assistance. But a WH official has just admitted that Trump chose him because he liked the way he performed on TV. https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/ronny-jackson-medical-exam-trump/index.html

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
35. A WH official just admitted Jackson was chosen because Trump liked him on TV.
Wed Mar 28, 2018, 10:45 PM
Mar 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/ronny-jackson-medical-exam-trump/index.html

White House physician Ronny Jackson's performance during an extended grilling over President Donald Trump's health and cognitive fitness played a part in his nomination for secretary of Veterans Affairs, a White House official told CNN Wednesday.

The official said Trump liked the way Jackson handled himself with reporters during the briefing in January.

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A source told CNN in January that Trump liked Jackson's performance in the briefing room answering questions about his presidential physical. At the White House briefing, Jackson vouched for Trump's neurological function, pronounced him in "excellent" health and attributed part of the positive health assessment to good genetics.

Trump's positive impression of the military doctor had staying power, with Trump praising Jackson to donors during a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago in February.


Whether Jackson intentionally fudged Fatso's weight information or raved about his amazing healthiness in order to curry favor or get a better job is unknown. But he wasn't chosen because of his management skills.
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