Colorado killer's psychiatrist 'was disciplined for prescribing herself Xanax, her husband Ambien an

[Seedersandleechers]

Dr Lynne Fenton was counselling James Holmes before the horrific murders took place
More details have emerged about the psychiatrist who was said to be treating Batman killer James Holmes before he allegedly opened fire on a Colorado movie theater killing 12 people and injuring 58.

Dr Lynne Fenton - who is said to specialize in schizophrenia and 'threat assessment' - may become the subject of a number of lawsuits if it emerges she could have prevented the massacre.

Her job as part of the 'threat assessment' team is to alert authorities if any student is considered dangerous or violent.
Holmes sent a notebook to Dr Fenton before the shooting which was allegedly filled with details and drawings of how he was planning to 'kill people'.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181108/James-Holmes-Dr-Lynne-Fenton-troubled-past-including-disciplined-prescribing-Xanax-husband-Ambien-colleague-Vicodin.html

[HooptieWagon]

1. But the notebook was delayed in the mailroom.

It was reported earlier that she didn't receive it until after the murders. Remains to be seen if she had any warning... she does have a bit of 'splainin' to do.

[HopeHoops]

2. I'm always amazed by how many stories about doctors abusing stuff they prescribe come out.

It's no wonder they miss stuff. My ENT couldn't figure out why I had vertigo so bad that I couldn't walk. Two weeks later he was charged with illegal Schedule II drug prescriptions - for himself. I still wonder if there was a relationship.

[Fumesucker]

3. Doctors have the highest rate of drug addiction of all professions.. n/t

[HopeHoops]

4. I've heard that. It really makes me feel secure, ya know?

[shanti]

8. and nurses follow close behind

easy access to pharmaceuticals, think about it...

[KurtNYC]

9. and since the narcotics have to be accounted for

guess how they get them?

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=doctors+stealing+drugs&oq=doctors+stealing+drugs&gs_l=hp.3..0i30.1437.8539.0.8684.28.18.3.7.7.1.252.3118.0j14j4.18.0...0.0...1c.vrSpTtQK3vI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=3848a6f22f909ddf&biw=1280&bih=661

[LiberalEsto]

11. How's the vertigo now?

I've been through it - severe vertigo - back in 1984.

[HopeHoops]

12. Comes and goes. Sometimes light, sometimes I can't walk. I never know.

That's part of what my service dog does - keeps me upright.

[LiberalEsto]

18. Do you know about the Epley maneuver?

More info:
http://www.merckmanuals.com/home/brain_spinal_cord_and_nerve_disorders/dizziness_and_vertigo/benign_paroxysmal_positional_vertigo_benign_positional_vertigo.html

[HopeHoops]

23. I've heard of it. I've also been through CT scans, MRIs, blood work, and damn near every other test

My youngest suffers from vertigo as well, but hers isn't as severe as mine.

[Liberal_in_LA]

5. is it illegal for a doc to prescribe for herself and husband?

I assumed it was a benefit of the job...within reason of course.

[Horse with no Name]

19. It is unethical

but not illegal and highly frowned upon. If they are prescribing controlled substances to themselves or their family members, it will get flagged.

[4th law of robotics]

6. If it weren't for guns he could have recieved the mental health care he clearly needed

somehow . . .

Definitely not a problem to be addressed in our mental health industry.

[benld74]

7. NO - Colorado law protects her type of DR's from lawsuits!

[bobthedrummer]

10. Who sees that MK ULTRA's Sub-Projects have continued within the "mental health profession"? n/t

[Daemonaquila]

13. Meh.

The reason for discipline was lame at best. If docs were disciplined for this regularly, every doc would be up befor the board. Just an attention-grabbing headline without substance.

[cthulu2016]

14. The person responsible for this is behind bars. No witch-hunts.

The thirst to find someone, somewhere to blame for all tragedies is at least as harmful as it is helpful.

No doctors choose that their patients goes on a shooting spree. It does sometimes happen.

The "maybe dangerous" patients outnumber the "very likely dangerous" patients a thousand to one. Doctors cannot breach confidentiality except in extraordinary circumstances.

And it is not useful to national mental health for doctors and patients to be in an adversarial relationship where the patient has to watch what she says.

If this doctor had credible reason to think Holmes was going to shoot people she most likely would have reported it.

And the police would have maybe dropped by to talk to Homes and he would have said, no.. it's cool. And if he could act halfway normal the fact that he had an arsenal would have no been sufficient reason to do anything if the arsenal was legal to possess.

It takes a lot to commit someone against their will.

So even if this doctor knew something definitive (unknown and unlikely) it still would not have necessarily prevented anything.

[RobertEarl]

15. A terrible Burden

The Doc could have maybe prevented the massacre.

Surely at least have been able to alert the authorities that the person should be looked at more closely.

Hope Docs all over are realizing their responsibilities. But that may be hard to do if they are drugged up?

[Comrade_McKenzie]

17. +1...It is asinine to go after this doctor. nt

[Comrade_McKenzie]

16. Whatever happened to doctor/patient privilege? nt

[antigone382]

20. No longer applies where the patient is clearly a danger to themselves or others

(or others are a clear danger to them).

Doctors are legally required to report patients' telling them that they are suffering or perpetrating abuse, planning to carry out violent or dangerous activities against themselves or others, etc.

[nolabear]

21. As a therapist this stuff scares me. It scares all of us.

I won't go into the Xanax thing. It wasn't ethical. She could have easily gotten it from a colleague after an evaluation as her patients would.

But, I have to tell you guys, you don't know. You don't know many, many times whether a person is a risk. Now and then it's clear but people do, and should, say things in therapy that they would not say elsewhere and it's almost always rage and fear and helplessness that is helped by being expressed and having an outside point of view and someone to help you figure out what to do.

I don't diagnose people I don't treat but we can all say the shooter had something terribly, terribly wrong going on. Whether that was apparent to his therapist is absolutely unknown and it's completely possible she did not know, or believe, that he was a danger. We don't know when she last saw him, we don't know if he was being honest with her, we don't know myuch of anything except that this is terrifying and if we can just lay blame somewhere and understand what happened maybe we will be safe. It's very hard to feel vulnerable to the random forces in the world.

This is a hard profession because it's rather ethereal. No Xray will spot things, no blood tests will tell you. All you have is a hurt mind and they don't make good clear partners in trying to figure out what might or might not happen.

But sometimes we help. And that's what keeps us going, believe me.

[RedCappedBandit]

22. Gotta love the drug culture