"that the president had fathered an illegitimate child"

[left-of-center2012]

Ex-NYC doorman paid to quash Trump tryst rumor?

The Associated Press confirmed the details of the Enquirer's payment through a review of a confidential contract and interviews with dozens of current and former employees of the Enquirer and its parent company, American Media Inc.

(ex-doorman) Dino Sajudin got $30,000 in exchange for signing over the rights, "in perpetuity," to a rumor he'd heard about Trump's sex life -- that the president had fathered an illegitimate child with an employee at Trump World Tower, a skyscraper he owns near the United Nations.

The contract subjected Sajudin to a $1 million penalty if he disclosed either the rumor or the terms of the deal to anyone.

[hlthe2b]

1. It sort of seems inevitable that he would have, frankly.

Hmmm... Melania, got that pre-nup language memorized by now?

[Texin]

52. Well, wasn't there some clause or some issue with paternity in the purported Daniels NDA?

[Dave Starsky]

80. It's well established that he shuns condoms.

So he's either paid for a lot of abortions, or he has supplemental yard apes of all ages running around half the country. I suspect it's a mixture of both.

And, yet, the evangelicals flock to him.

[jberryhill]

2. It's gonna suck when....

...we find out that one third of the US economy is actually based on people being paid not to say things about Trump.

[kentuck]

3. Stock market will plummet.

The economy will tank.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

6. Not so fast. That might be our biggest growth sector.

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Might? Could? Which is preferred? Beats me.

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Modal verbs: "may," "might," "can," "could," and "ought"

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[Exotica]

69. Read my mind

[WhiteTara]

10. It could cause certain sectors to collapse

and it will increase the prison population creating prison guards job explosion.

[SonofDonald]

30. And you got there first!

Same thing I was thinking.

[Eliot Rosewater]

33. LOL ... btw, i have a question for YOU

You are a businessperson so to speak, you surely deal with them, as you are an attorney (If I am not supposed to say that, tell me and I will edit), do you find the ethics of most on the right to be different than the ethics for most on the left?


I wont taint your answer with my experience, I will let you answer first.

[jberryhill]

55. Interesting question

For the most part, I have no idea what the politics/religion/sexual orientation of my clients might be, nor what standard of "ethics" might apply. I've done work for (and against) pornographers and preachers, which are both different species of selling fantasies as far as I'm concerned. I don't know which ones might be "left" or "right", with the exceptions where politics is part of the mix, as with my representation of clients against Donald Trump and Jerry Falwell. But politics is generally irrelevant to what I get hired to do. At the intersection of "trademark claims" and "free speech", you get all types.

I haven't noticed much of a difference.

For any of these transactions of "I will pay you to keep a secret", I don't see much of an "ethical" issue on either side of the transaction. For example, I recently dealt with a situation in which a person with a recipe for a baked product wanted to hire a commercial baker to make the product in quantity, and wanted to ensure that the commercial baker did not disclose the recipe or use the recipe on its own. So this idea of "it's awful to pay someone to keep quiet" or somehow a violation of First Amendment rights strikes me as basically silly.

More pointedly, is it "ethical" to:

1. Pay someone money to keep quiet about a sexual encounter, or

2. Demand money from someone under the threat of exposing the sexual encounter.

I don't see a paragon of moral virtue on either side of that type of transaction. I mean, who is acting more "ethical"? The person making the payment, or the person who takes the money and then later decides they want to expose it anyway?

Here are some good rules to live by:

A. Don't do things that you might have to pay people to be quiet about, and
B. Don't take money from people not to talk about things you want to talk about.

Just because two people are arguing about something, doesn't make either one of them "right" in some broader sense.

What I do notice, and could go on for hours about, is the unfortunate tendency to confuse legality and morality, and that the most abused word in the English language is "fairness". I have never come across a person left, right, up, down or otherwise, who did not define "fair" as anything other than an outcome in their favor. And I mean never.

[Eliot Rosewater]

57. Wait...

I don't know which ones might be "left" or "right", with the exceptions where politics is part of the mix, as with my representation of clients against Donald Trump and Jerry Falwell.

Dont suppose you can talk about these?

[jberryhill]

72. Certain ones are public information

Falwell:

https://www.citizen.org/media/press-releases/no-divine-intervention-here-falwell-loses-bid-shut-down-parody-web-site

Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/i-bought-the-website-trump-org-then-donald-trump-came-after-me/?utm_term=.624b0a562f9b

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3213481-Trump-Domain.html

But the relevant law doesn't care what side you are on politically. I've done work for people whose views I would not agree with in a million years, but they did have a good legal case.

[Eliot Rosewater]

74. Cool...that last one about trump.org looks like you won that one also!

AS to the relevant law, I think it is all out the window if rump is allowed to appoint sycophants who are ignorant of the law and only care about religion.

What do you think?

HEY EVERYBODY

go to

http://www.trump.org/

[7962]

82. Thats a damn good answer. I'd hire you! nt

[mountain grammy]

50. Ha, true that!

[Alwaysna]

4. I have wondered

If he had fathered a child when he was in Russia during the 80's.

[femmocrat]

5. Probably more than one...

and probably a couple of abortions. Nothing would surprise me about that lying sack of slime.

[ailsagirl]

39. Quite simply...

he's the scum of the earth

[Dulcinea]

71. Possibly.

But his base won't care about that. They might care if it's proven that he has been responsible for any abortions, though.

[Tavarious Jackson]

7. Apparently the doorman passed a polygraph...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-national-enquirer-a-donald-trump-rumor-and-another-secret-payment-to-buy-silence-dino-sajudin-david-pecker

[7962]

81. Which really means nothing.

Theres a reason they're not admissible in court.

[JI7]

8. What if there are Russian prostitutes that got pregnant

And Putin knows about it.

[SunSeeker]

13. Yep. As Stormy pointed out, Trump did not use condoms.

If he didn't use condoms with a porn star, it is likely he didn't with prostitutes either.

Seems to me Tiffany can't be the only child out there that Trump conceived out of wedlock.

[erronis]

27. A walking STD vector sitting in the president's chair. Wonder if that's why they closed down

That web site that specialized in prostitution. No, not match.com.

What's his face probably gave up a lot info to those data harvesters. Denny Denisobitch?

[IronLionZion]

64. Donny Putinsbitch

[SonofDonald]

34. That's because they don't make them that small.

I just had to, and it was so easy

[SunSeeker]

47. Happy to have tee'd that up for you. LOL

[SonofDonald]

49. And I get the assist n/t

[George II]

87. It kept falling off.

[Marthe48]

18. Male sex workers don't get pregnant

And I'm not slamming on any orientation.

[NCTraveler]

28. What do male sex workers have to do with it? nt.

[Marthe48]

42. Just saying

that maybe the alleged pee tape might include male and female prostitutes.

[NCTraveler]

44. Why? This is the first I have ever heard of it.

I've never heard Trump has any interest in men sexually.

[Marthe48]

48. He wouldn't have to engage physically

the alleged pee tape.

[SonofDonald]

51. It's what they call a "joke"or "humor" aka "Sarcasm"

Must be early.

[NCTraveler]

53. Can you explain the joke or sarcasm?

Not early at all. Been up for eight hours. Just hitting my stride.

So, what is funny to you about adding a gay element to the mix?

Humor is not AKA sarcasm. Sarcasm requires absolutely no humor in order to exist.

[Marthe48]

62. Not a darn thing funny

When I am doing my chores, my mind has free rein. This came across my mind some time ago. I shared the thought. There are male prostitutes, there are sex shows. People of all sexes are available to perform. Here is a story to a link that sort of illustrates where I'm coming from:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5478765/Trump-partied-club-known-simulating-bestiality-S-M-showers.html

I don't think of tripe as bisexual, but I do think he might be narcissistic or sociopathic. He does what he wants, with no regard of appearance, or consequences.

Absolutely no humor or sarcasm.


Speaking of chores, I have to get off of here.

[NCTraveler]

67. "Not a darn thing funny"

True.

[Marthe48]

58. I'm not joking or being sarcastic

n/t

[calimary]

24. Boom! That would not surprise me in the least.

[Eliot Rosewater]

37. Good one. What if rump and his tiny member is responsible for impregnating 1000 women

who didnt want to have sex with him but thought it would further their career? We wouldn't know, would we?

What if rump did business deals with people who made it clear for their deal to work many had to die in the Ukraine or wherever else?

We wouldn't know, would we?

Why? Because rump is a liar who never tells the truth and if he is being blackmailed we would not know until he did something unpleasing to his owner, Putin.

Can you IMAGINE the right allowing any democrat to stay in office under these circumstances? In fact, can you imagine the Democrats allowing this? Never.

[7962]

83. Haaaaaaaaaaaa! Oh man, wouldn't THAT be something. nt

[WheelWalker]

9. Anonymous Fathers' Day cards.

Bummer to be the Donald.

[SunSeeker]

11. Interesting. Same liquidated damages figure ($1M) as Stormy's NDA.

I bet Cohen had a hand in drawing it up.

[Chakaconcarne]

12. $30k is quite a bit to keep mum on a falsehood...

No wonder Trump has been stewing....

and now reported on CNN... excellent.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

31. And I'd have asked for more than $30K

if the penalty for breaking it was $1 million. I'd want at least a quarter million.

[IluvPitties]

14. I hope the child is a minority.

That would make the right explode.

[mainstreetonce]

46. Mexican

And kneels beforecfoitball games

[lunasun]

56. Nope they will say it's proof he is not racist The news will be a "blessing" to those morons

[IluvPitties]

65. If he is not racist, why would he hide the child and not give him/her/they

his beloved Trump last name?

[Catherine Vincent]

79. They can find one

They found one that was supposedly for Bill Clinton.

[womanofthehills]

88. from Rick Wilson - ""i'm just gonna leave this out there:"

[sarge43]

15. Nothing new for Republicans. Warren Harding did. n/t

[Tikki]

16. I've always wondered if this is why he wouldn't release his taxes...paying

child support.

I guess most people are only interested in how he handles his taxes, but
his family might not know about other offspring(s).

Tikki

[Botany]

17. no child is illegitimate

BTW does anybody have any doubts that Trump has paid for
a number of abortions?

[bullwinkle428]

20. I'm sure you've heard John Fugelsang using this particular line for

probably over a year now - "I can't wait for the mistresses to start coming forward with the (abortion) receipts!"

[Botany]

84. The evangelicals will give him another mulligan

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics/tony-perkins-trump-affairs-mulligan/index.html

Washington (CNN)Tony Perkins, the president of the conservative Family Research Council, contended Tuesday that
the evangelical community has given President Donald Trump a "mulligan" when it comes to his personal behavior.

"Yes, evangelicals, conservatives, they gave him a mulligan. They let him have a do-over. They said we'll start afresh
with you and we'll give you a second chance." Perkins said in a interview on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."

Perkins' remarks come after a Wall Street Journal report that Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, formed a private
LLC to pay a former porn star in exchange for not speaking publicly about an alleged sexual encounter with the
then-candidate.

[Skittles]

86. thank you

I absolutely detest the word ILLEGITIMATE to describe a HUMAN BEING

[pnwmom]

19. That paternity "boilerplate" in Stormy's NDA was there for a reason!

At some point or other it had gotten used!

[mercuryblues]

23. my 1st thought

She knows who the mother of the child is.

[calimary]

26. I wondered about that, too. Why else would something

like that be included?

[GallopingGhost]

21. Yuck.

Just what the world needs, more Trumps.

[Le Gaucher]

22. Evangelical will cut him loose if he paid for an abortion

I think that will be their red line

[Still In Wisconsin]

25. Evangelicals have abortions... then they "get saved" and it's all OK. If they need another abortion

they have it and then just accept Jesus again. See how easy that is?

So if it comes out that Trump knocked someone up and she had an abortion, the Evangelicals will just say "Oh well, God forgives sins, he's a new man now..."


No, I think it would take Trump coming out as a gay man for the Evangelicals to leave him.

[Mike Nelson]

32. Not so sure...

...given his record, he would have to be bisexual. So, couldn't he just say he's given up his wicked desire for boys?

[Still In Wisconsin]

68. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah he could say Pence helped him pray away the gay!

Problem solved! #MAGA!!!

[erronis]

40. Oh, that's so cynical... Kidding - that's the way they work. Puritanicals blame everyone else

But give themselves lots of room to do the same things and many others.

I think even coming out as gay might be ok as long as he is certifiably 66% straight. Having non-white parentage may be the line, however. All those bible-thumping mutts who's ancestors inter- and in-bred.

[Still In Wisconsin]

70. You never know what it will be. In college I dated a woman from a "good Christian family."

I am a Jew. Her parents were like, "but have you accepted Jesus as your savior?"

Ummmmm.......

[erronis]

76. Hope you got out of that one (relationship). I actually married a born-agin and lived to regret it

She seemed to enjoy flouting the evangelical "rules" quite a bit for a while but apparently bejeezus came a-knockin on her door. Raptured Away, thank you lord.

[Caliman73]

41. No they won't.

They are not evangelicals they are Christian Dominionists. They have no actual religious ideology other than to make their particular brand of Christianity the supreme religion. If Trump is willing to sell that, then they will not turn on him.

[maryellen99]

61. It all boils down to this

As long as trump brings about End Times/The Apocalypse and he most likely will, they don’t care what he does.

[Caliman73]

66. Perhaps, but I actually think that none of the leaders actually have faith.

Faith is quiet. It is about submission and humility. It is about waiting with hope and not having to know when and how. Leaders of the Dominionist movement want power. They want hegemony. They are the least faithful people that I have seen.

It will be a tragedy for human beings if Trump's actions create an apocalyptic event. I would like to see the faces of those people however, when their version of Christ on the White horse does not materialize and they are stuck here with the rest of us through the so called "tribulations".

[RandySF]

29. I really hate that word

[Mike Nelson]

35. Of course he has...

...abortions, too. He likes "unprotected sex" according to Stormy and Karen.

[Frustratedlady]

36. Only one?

I find that hard to believe.

[kimbutgar]

38. I bet there are some records in Cohens files that he paid off women to get abortions also

Imagine the evangelical fascists defending Twitler for paying for women’s abortions!

[Blue_true]

59. Yep.

If rightwing evangelicals defend him after he paid for abortions, the veil of moral superiority that they claim will be completely off, it is badly hanging as things are. No one should take them seriously.

[MFM008]

43. Gross

..........

[Paladin]

45. If trump got even half the sex he brags about, there are some kids and abortions out there. (nt)

[dawnie51]

54. Dump tried his best....

to get Marla Maples to have an abortion. She totally refused, and that's the only reason he married her, and that's why the marriage was doomed. He appears to have nothing but disdain for their daughter, and thankfully, Maples has kept the daughter somewhat apart from the family of grifters. Now that the girl is an adult, who knows.

[guillaumeb]

60. Another incredible coincidence.

Almost like a pattern of behavior.

[More_Cowbell]

63. That doorman could make more than the $1 million penalty by talking

Or crowdfunding.

[Guilded Lilly]

73. Just a side point, Ronan Farrow also penned several pieces

About Harvey Weinstein for The New Yorker.
He is a thought to be very thorough and professional journalist.

[workinclasszero]

75. Oh boy...another Trump eruption

Can't wait to see the evangelical rights excuse for this one!

[Liberalhammer]

77. Maury Povich

This is his specialty.

[Drahthaardogs]

78. Oh My! Can someone with a Photoshop please make

A baby with Trump's hair? It would.brighten an otherwise dull week

[forgotmylogin]

85. So standard rates take shape?

$30k if you know something...
+100k if DJT’s wiener was physically involved...

[Chemisse]

89. Imagine the horror to find out you are the unwanted offspring of this sick creature.

Hopefully it (and all the others??) will remain a secret to the child. I pity anyone who has to learn they share DNA with the most publicly vile person on earth.