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Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:00 AM

Going Mobile

“For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
Newton's Third Law


I'm not a scientist, by any means. So, instead of a discussion with either atoms or solar systems as a model, I shall instead use a mobile hanging over an infant's crib. This is easier for me, a simple person of limited insight and understanding on a good day …..much less so in recent days.

With such a mobile, as we know, if one piece moves, all others must shift their position, in order to maintain balance. In “mobiles” composed of human beings – be they families, communities, schools, government agencies, or the Trump administration – there is another dynamic that can take place: if one piece attempts to move, some or all of the other pieces may attempt to remain entrenched. And, if that entrenched piece (or pieces) enjoy powerful positions, they may even “cut” right off the mobile.

We've witnessed an example of this very thing when Nikki Haley, the UN ambassador, announced that there would be more sanctions against Russia. Although meetings among high level administration officials had agreed to this, one piece on the mobile became entrenched in opposition to this shift after Haley spoke publicly. That piece, of course, was Donald Trump.

On the surface, it might appear that Trump's lone reason for doing so is his relationship with Putin. And that should always be considered, in the context of every move Trump makes. Indeed, Putin provides the context for the entirety of Trump's presidency. But there is another factor that lies just beneath the surface, one that the media has not fully taken into account, simply because of the rapid pace of “breaking news.”

It has to do with the dynamics within the mobile. Let's consider this in terms of individual pieces, before looking at the entire mobile. If one piece explodes – say, “attorney” Cohen – another pieces will implode – say, Sean Hannity. It is never a coincidence that the exploding and imploding pieces are closely related to one another.

Now, briefly, let us examine a “quiet” news story:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/us/politics/pence-jon-lerner-nikki-haley.html

VP Pence had decided to hire Jon Lerner – top assistant to Haley – as his new national security advisor. Now, Lerner has no background and zero qualifications to serve either in the United Nations position, or as a national security adviser. His experience is in being a republican pollster who led the “Never Trump” movement of the republican primary season of 2016. On the surface, he is a strange choice. Under the surface, it was even stranger: Lerner, we learned, would continue with Haley, as well as with Pence. Only in this administration could an unqualified person be assigned two full-time positions.

When Trump learned of this, he asked, “Why would Mike do this to me?” Surely, Trump remembered that Lerner strongly opposed him during the primaries. And just as surely, he remembers that during the general election campaign, the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape surfaced, Pence had quietly told republican leaders he was prepared to become their presidential candidate.

Now, let's focus on the entire Trump mobile. As the pressures on the entrenched central piece become greater, we have seen his “trusted circle” become smaller. He communicates less and less with individuals such as John Kelly, or the other semi-establishment people in his administration. Thus, those people communicate more and more with one another – for example, Kelly, Haley, Sessions, and Pence.

It has dawned upon Trump that these people are preparing for other forces to clip Trump, remove him from the mobile, and have Pence assume his position. Hence, his attempt to humiliate Haley in a very public manner, that all of the others can see.

In time, Trump will indeed be removed from office. In a very real sense, that is a good thing. However, it is a bad thing that shit-stains such as Kelly, Haley, Sessions, and Pence would assume more power, thus allowing for them to become entrenched for the 2020 elections.

And that is why – exactly why – we need to harness all of our potential strength to re-institute constitutional democracy in 2018, 2020, and beyond. There is no time to waste.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Reply Going Mobile (Original post)
H2O Man Apr 2018 OP
Achilleaze Apr 2018 #1
ailsagirl Apr 2018 #9
malaise Apr 2018 #15
H2O Man Apr 2018 #18
lunatica Apr 2018 #48
Achilleaze Apr 2018 #50
shanti Apr 2018 #2
H2O Man Apr 2018 #19
Egnever Apr 2018 #3
H2O Man Apr 2018 #21
CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2018 #4
irisblue Apr 2018 #5
H2O Man Apr 2018 #22
kentuck Apr 2018 #6
H2O Man Apr 2018 #26
lunatica Apr 2018 #7
H2O Man Apr 2018 #27
ailsagirl Apr 2018 #8
H2O Man Apr 2018 #28
ailsagirl Apr 2018 #32
bluestarone Apr 2018 #10
H2O Man Apr 2018 #29
malthaussen Apr 2018 #11
H2O Man Apr 2018 #30
joanbarnes Apr 2018 #12
H2O Man Apr 2018 #31
Ukrainian Yankee Apr 2018 #13
H2O Man Apr 2018 #33
malaise Apr 2018 #14
H2O Man Apr 2018 #39
malaise Apr 2018 #41
H2O Man Apr 2018 #43
MagickMuffin Apr 2018 #16
H2O Man Apr 2018 #40
suffragette Apr 2018 #17
H2O Man Apr 2018 #42
raven mad Apr 2018 #20
H2O Man Apr 2018 #44
spanone Apr 2018 #23
Tatiana Apr 2018 #24
lunatica Apr 2018 #36
blake2012 Apr 2018 #25
lunatica Apr 2018 #35
blake2012 Apr 2018 #37
coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #46
lunatica Apr 2018 #47
blake2012 Apr 2018 #49
coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #51
blake2012 Apr 2018 #52
coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #53
blake2012 Apr 2018 #54
coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #55
H2O Man Apr 2018 #38
Exotica Apr 2018 #34
coeur_de_lion Apr 2018 #45

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:02 AM

1. Peace and Good Health, Brother!

(and Constitutional Democracy, too!)


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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:03 PM

9. That is beautiful!!

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:45 PM

15. Magnificent

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:36 PM

18. Beautiful!

Thank you!

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:29 PM

48. Did you do this?

It’s excellent artwork. Quite beautiful. Inspiring.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #48)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:59 PM

50. No way

the intertubes provideth...

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:03 AM

2. Hope you're feeling better, H2O Man!

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Response to shanti (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:36 PM

19. Thanks!

I feel a little better every day.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:05 AM

3. Good to see you posting!

 

hope you are feeling much better.

I think you might be right that they are prepping for a future without trump.

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Response to Egnever (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:48 PM

21. Thanks, Egnever!

Can't blame them. But I give them no credit whatsoever. They were willing to submit to him, to humiliate themselves, for potential personal gain. And now, they want to benefit from his inevitable humiliating removal from office.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:30 AM

4. Nothing wrong with your brain, my dear H20 Man!

This post is a prime example of your first-class thinking.

And I agree with every word.



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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:35 AM

5. What CaliforniaPeggy said

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:52 PM

22. Thanks, Buddy!

I'll be seeing the neurologist again in a couple of days. I think that I feel a little better every day. But watching the news, I couldn't help but conclude there is more going on than people imagine.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:50 AM

6. Welcome back, H2O Man!

For me, your most inspiring sentence:

"In time, Trump will indeed be removed from office."

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Response to kentuck (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:07 AM

26. Thanks, Buddy!

It's almost entertaining to watch the president decompose. If it were not so serious......

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:00 PM

7. Your last sentence is something about which I posted an OP a couple of days ago

Rather than rewrite it again here’s the link. We need to restore our Constitutional Democracy. There is no way we can reverse what’s happened since the Supreme Court selected Bush. But we can begin to restore it in November.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210500016

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Response to lunatica (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:11 AM

27. Thanks!

We need to be building the foundation today, for our much-needed victories in November. Even while I'm on this brief "vacation," I've been communicating with a number of student activists on college campuses. They give me hope for the future.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:02 PM

8. Welcome back, H2O Man!!

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:14 AM

28. Thanks, ailsagirl!

With patience, even the smallest creature can climb the highest mountain. And patience is one thing that I have plenty of. So I can climb out of bed, and journey over to my computer. It's a start!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:30 AM

32. You bet it is, H2O Man!!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:05 PM

10. Good to hear from you!

Nice to see you back here!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:15 AM

29. Thanks!

It's good to be able to participate in discussions here .....even though I have to check my spelling on even the simplest of words!

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:22 PM

11. But Mr Trump seems to always contradict his spokescreatures...

... I have the totally unsubstantiated feeling that he just pouts whenever anyone gets media time instead of him.

Hope your shoulder is feeling better.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:27 AM

30. Thanks!

My shoulder feels fine. It's that huge lump on top of it that sustained the injury. Huge swelling on the outside, blood pool on the inside. And what a doctor referred to as "dead brain matter."

The current reports on the coordinated missile "attack" upon Syria suggests that Trump isn't serious about confronting Russia. I say this, recognizing that there remain questions about the incident that caused that reaction.

Also, this article is interesting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5631291/White-House-insiders-whisper-Nikki-Haley-Mike-Pence-running-2020.html

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:29 PM

12. Good thoughtful insight. Hope you are feeling better H2O Man!

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Response to joanbarnes (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:28 AM

31. Thanks, joanbarnes!

I feel a little better every day.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:40 PM

13. Rec for a great post, but

 

I thought it was gonna be



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Response to Ukrainian Yankee (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:35 AM

33. Right!

I'd considered including that video in the OP.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:43 PM

14. Very thoughtful post

Welcome back bro

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Response to malaise (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:43 PM

39. Thank you!

Much appreciated.

I'm planning to go watch the boys train this evening. They may have bouts on the 28th. But I won't be sparring! (grin)

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #39)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:46 PM

41. You'd better not be sparring

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Response to malaise (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:51 PM

43. I'd have had

trouble with either of them, back when I was young.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:54 PM

16. Your statement about removal from office


This is one of my main concerns about impeachment. Pence would have a better chance of winning in 2020 than trump.

The GOP knows this, especially with the Blue Tsunami coming in November.


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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:46 PM

40. Right.

I provided a link, somewhere above, of one of the news stories that came out about 5 hours after the OP. These report that people in the administration are aware that Pence-Haley is being prepared for 2020.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 02:45 PM

17. I love how you scratch at the surface to dig out the real story lurking beneath.

You are the best of DU.

Hugs for a speedy and thorough recovery.

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Response to suffragette (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:50 PM

42. Well, thank you!

The news is reporting on so many things these days, that some important stories can easily be overlooked. Luckily, my mind is working slowly enough that I can focus on them! (I'm feeling a bit better every day.)

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:56 PM

20. A terrific post and a wish for your health to be as great

to be as your words.

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Response to raven mad (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:52 PM

44. Thank you!

I really appreciate that. You are very kind. And kindness is a great strength.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:30 PM

23. K&R...

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:11 PM

24. I agree with your theory.

I think Trump is making a counterplay. And, I think Comey is right -- Trump is not stupid or senile. All of his actions are taken with a specific intent.

If impeachment is attempted, it should be against Pence. Remove the biggest threat. If we recapture the House, we would be looking at a Democratic speaker. Any VP Trump would attempt to nominate would have to be approved. I'd rather have a lame duck Trump than a President Pence who actually knows how government works and how to wield power.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:22 PM

36. One possibility would be

That a newly elected Congress would have a Democratic majority which would effectively stop Pence’s radical agenda.

If the Republicans can do it then we can do it too.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:22 PM

25. Well thats five minutes of my life Ill never get back

 

Occam’s Razor, dude. Your story needs a shave.

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:18 PM

35. You must be very new to DU

And you obviously have very bad manners for a newcomer. Smart people keep quiet when they’re new.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:34 PM

37. thanks. I tend to speak my mind. which is what I find message boards to be good for

 

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 03:49 PM

46. Did someone

drop you on your noggin?

Thought so.

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 05:20 PM

47. Like I said, smart people

Keep quiet until they know what’s going on.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 06:46 PM

49. I judged the post in its merits

 

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #49)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:29 PM

51. Man you keep missing the point

No surprise there.

Smart people keep it shut until they are sure they know what they are talking about.

Be like the smart people.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #51)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:30 PM

52. Haha. Thanks. Im 49. Been around the block

 

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #52)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:43 PM

53. Crikey

Do need to repeat it again?

Be like the smart people.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:47 PM

54. Well keep this thread kicked

 

So some good can come of this pointlessback and forth

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #54)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:49 PM

55. You got it!

Your turn.

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Response to blake2012 (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:41 PM

38. Legalize Lonnie Anderson's hair.

Do it. Do it now. Right now. No excuses.

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 09:39 AM

34. great post

 

Huge rec

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Response to H2O Man (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 03:18 PM

45. I like to think

that due to his professional ass kissing job on Fredo/Trump, Pence has zero chance of being elected in 2020. I just can't see how association with Fredo can be good for anyone's career. But I said the same about Trump -- that he could never be elected. So I don't want to jinx this either!

The stinker repubs used Fredo to advance their agenda, knowing that with all his twitter rages, behind it all he is very impressionable and easily manipulated. They played up to his insecurities and got some stuff passed.

Now IMHO he has outlived his usefulness and even the worst of the repubs are sick of the constant headline grabbing twitter rages.

No one will stick by him and he's starting to figure it out.

I want to enjoy watching Fredo lose everything but like you said, this is a dangerous time.

Thanks for the insightful post H, glad you're feeling well enough to write. Back to bed! Once you've watched the boys train that is. And take it easy for a few days you hear?

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