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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate the term prolife
Its s term to make right wingers feel morally superior. I wish the media would call them out and pose these questions to them:
If you are so pro-life, then why are you against programs that would help that born child (food sustenance, health care, educational assistance, housing programs, etc..)?
If you are so pro-life then why are you okay with police officers killing unarmed black men?
If you are so pro-life then why are you against immigrants who are trying to escape their countries so that they dont die?
If you are so pro-life then why are you okay with a possible innocent man getting the death penalty?
If you are so pro-life then why dont you care about civilian casualties in war zones?
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)are you willing to take in once you outlaw abortion like you want..............HUH?
Fucking crickets every time.
Cha
(297,190 posts)"pro-abortion" But, Pro Choice.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)Once a child is born to parents who are poor, they are on their own.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)If they were really Pro-Birth they would be fighting for more funding to support better prenatal care. In some areas of the US, infant mortality and stillbirth rates rival the 3rd world. You don't see these people marching in those areas or demanding better care.
JI7
(89,248 posts)It's especially frustrating when someone on our side will use the term prolife .
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)They use the term as a rhetorical device (an appeal to emotion). It works extremely well for them. Now while I do not think they happened upon this by accident, I do have to question how they can continue to use the term in the face of all the counter examples you have provided. The only answer must be the media you want to use to call them on their bullshit is complicit in the use of the term. They control the narrative. The media willingly allows them to control the narrative. It does not help that Sinclair owns the majority of this country's media outlets.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Frank Luntz and his ilk have been mining the language with these kinds of buzz words to fram narratives for decades.
In one respect, it has been done for ages. Repubs have recently dialed up the hate speech.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)Just let like
Freedom caucus
Right to work
Values voters
Family research council
VOX
(22,976 posts)No, its insurance that workers pay into, so therell be some income in their later years.
Were PAYING FOR IT, so stop with the entitlements crap!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I just didn't know the origins of the buzz words. My point was the media are complicit, which makes it damned near impossible for us to change that narrative (at least in the immediate future).
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)Because if you claim to support both, I want nothing to do with the conversation. Guns take away life. And you cannot be both, that is the very definition of hypocrisy.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)Coupled with church directives against birth control, the reality is that they are ANTI-SEX!
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)Controlling others' sex lives, and particularly women's sex lives.
DFW
(54,369 posts)It's a meaningless propaganda term, much like "conservative." Look up the meaning of "conservative" in the dictionary. You won't find a lot of Republicans to whom it applies.
If someone comes up to me with this "pro-life" routine, I just ask them, "are you a vegetarian?" And then, "do you favor abolishing the death penalty?" In the case of Republians, who usually answer "no" to one or both questions, then I just tell them they have negated any argument that could possibly be used to call them "pro-life." If they are for denying abortion rights to women, let them say so, and not cowardly hide behind a propaganda slogan that doesn't even apply to them.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...pro-peace rallies, "peace" petitions...a buzz word, used by totalitarians for utterly corrupt purposes. So it is with "life".
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)"People's Democratic Republic"
A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)Hekate
(90,673 posts)...access to the full range of women's medical care.
Framing all the social arguments is something the RW mastered decades ago, with a big assist from Newt Gingrich. We need to take back our language and reframe the issues.
Democrats are not "pro-abortion", we are "in favor of women having access to the full range of women's medical care." Necessary medical care for women includes contraception, prenatal and postnatal care, and at times abortion. No need to go into details for the rabid, as they are against all of it anyway.
They are not really "pro-life," they are merely "pro-birth."