"When It Comes to Hillary Clinton, Oh, Just Fuck Right Off, James Comey"

[SHRED]

Comey thinks his gestures prevented an erosion of faith in institutions and in a potential President Clinton? You goddamned fool, these motherfuckers had over a half-dozen investigations of Benghazi because when one said, "Nope, it's all good. Sad, but good," they immediately had another going. And as for institutions, Republicans don't give a sad turtle shit about institutions. Do you think the assholes who had just prevented President Obama from making a Supreme Court choice out of pure spite and political fuckery would think twice about wrecking any agency that got in their way?

You big, dumb dickhead, the only thing that was standing between your precious institutions and their dismantling or complete politicization was the fact that a Democrat was president. Clinton would have prevented most of the shit that's happening now to the Justice Department. But you fucked it, Jim Comey.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2018/04/when-it-comes-to-hillary-clinton-oh.html?m=1

[Cha]

1. "You big, dumb dickhead, the only thing that was standing between your precious institutions and..

their dismantling or complete politicization was the fact that a Democrat was president. Clinton would have prevented most of the shit that's happening now to the Justice Department. But you fucked it, Jim Comey."

Thanks Rude and SHRED.. Comey seems really stupid at times.

[SHRED]

4. You're welcome

This article really hit a nerve with me.
A truth and reality nerve.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. Ironically, Comey said he did what he did cuz he thought Hillary was cruisin' to an easy victory.

[exboyfil]

26. He tried the thread the needle

Democrat President and Republican Congress. His name is going to be listed with Von Papen in history books.

[rock]

31. Notice that is not a real reason

But simply it sounds like a reason. He paid no attention to the law or the rules.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. IKR!! Comey is a total sleazeball... especially after reopening the investigation instead of first

checking whether the emails that other sleazeball, Weiner, had on his computer were duplicates of the ones already investigated. How the fuck was THAT lawful and in accordance with FBI regulations and procedures?!

[SunSeeker]

22. That excerpt was my fave.

Spot on.

[unblock]

2. "I did it for Hillary's sake" is the serious self-delusion of someone who can't face the truth

Which is that he screwed the pooch bigly.

He has to tell himself something to sleep at night and this is the best he can come up with. Still waiting for that thank you so much call from hillary, I'm guessing....

[milestogo]

20. +1

[Freethinker65]

3. I am now thinking he wanted her damaged and ineffective as a President

I do not think he believed Trump could possibly win, but like all "good conservatives", he wanted to do his part to make her job nearly as difficult as possible. The Republicans were already threatening impeachment and countless investigations on day one.

[SHRED]

5. You may be right on this

[bettyellen]

6. I think a lot of people- reporters too- tipped their hands and were excited about the rancor and

Ugliness that her opponent brought to the table and they had every intention of giving those assholes center stage and allow them to attack her for no reason at all.same as they did w the emails.

[DURHAM D]

9. This

[czarjak]

14. You got it...

[uponit7771]

28. +1, republicans have enacted voter suppression for year they could give a fuck about democracy

[FiveGoodMen]

34. He could have waited till she won and THEN dropped his bomb

[Freethinker65]

35. The GOP knew and were going to leak it anyway. This way he gets some conservative creds.

What if: He did not do it to elect Trump, he did it to hobble President Hillary Clinton. Have her start her historic first term with questions from the media not about the history being made...but about Weiner and Huma's emails. The FBI was pretty sure there was nothing new, but it would cause some trouble early on and the media would eat it up.

[CentralMass]

7. You make some great points.

[politicaljunkie41910]

8. Had Clinton won, Gowdy and Company would have impeached her by now with their majority, though I

don't think they would have had the votes in the Senate to have removed her from office but they would have tried. They would have brought an impeachment against her for Benghazi and the Server. And they would have probably thrown in a few jabs at the Clinton Foundation, but would have failed but that's okay with them, they would have bloodied her pretty badly and after all that was their intention all along. Put her on the defense from the beginning and always the threat of pulling the bandaid off and reopening old wounds.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. Without a doubt!! These Refucklians are pure evil... can't wait to overthrow their majority in both

houses of Congress.

[Goodheart]

10. Rude Pundit is from Louisiana, right? Makes me proud.

I've been banned from tigerdroppings.com for similar thoughts and expressions.

[betsuni]

11. K&R

[Aristus]

12. Thank you, Your Rudeness.

You put the right words to my unquenchable anger.

[BobTheSubgenius]

13. Not exactly the hero that some are painting hiqm.

I really have a hard time pinning down exactly what I would name him. I do know that "hero" isn't in the running.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Don't think anyone is painting Coney as a "hero"... though there's no denying he is

primarily responsible for getting Mueller appointed as Special Counsel. If that leads to Dolt 45's impeachment, then that's one in the plus column for him. Obviously though, it would of been a helluva lot nicer if Hillary was President and that shitstain occupying the White House was a distant memory.

[lunamagica]

19. "traitor" sounds good to me

[czarjak]

15. Republican protectionism...

Thanks Jimmy!

[lunamagica]

18. K&R.

[SunSeeker]

21. K & R

[Honeycombe8]

23. How odd it is that people have forgotten that it was the Russians that flipped the race to Trump.

All that "Rusher thing" has just gone out the window.

Right before the election, Clinton was leading in all but one of the polls. I think there were 13 polls.

Comey's October surprise stopped her momentum, but did not cost her the race. RUSSIA did. We now know they had a wide ranging system in place, with Trump's team colluding with them, and also hacked some election systems in states. There's the villain. Not Comey.

[Zambero]

24. It took both, Russia and Comey

One or the other would not have been likely to throw the electoral college to Trump. Comey's antics certainly stopped Hillary's momentum, but at some point that dynamic also had to cost her quite a few votes, and less than 80,000 across three states would have stopped Trump. Some estimates have a 2% to 3% erosion of Hillary's support following the "October surprise".

[Honeycombe8]

30. I disagree. It only took Russia. That's why everyone was surprised @ the Trump win. Even Trump.

Clinton was still much favored to win on the night of the election. What intervened were criminal actions by Russia; we now know that Russia hacked some state election systems.

We know for a fact that the Comey surprise had an effect on Clinton's numbers, but not enough to cause a loss. The Comey surprise was resolved within a few days of his announcement. Clinton cont'd to lead in polls and most predictors of who would win.

There were a couple of people who predictd a Trump win (Michael Moore & another guy), but they were saying that before the Comey surprise.

I understand that some people want a simple reason to blame the loss on. But it's not that simple, and it wasn't Comey. Comey had an effect, for sure. But not such an effect that it would have, or did, cause her to lose. She was still a shoe-in to win. Or so everyone thought. Even Trump was surprised that he won.

What intervened, then? Russia. I don't think Trump did win. There is no way that most of the indicators were wrong. That has never happened before, as long as we had polls and predictors. Trump didn't win legitimately. Russia hacked some systems in key districts that were tossups. We now KNOW that Russia hacked election systems. That is much more likely to be the cause of Clinton's so-called loss.

[mythology]

27. Your memory is faulty. The facts are clear on this.

Clinton was ahead by about 6 points in the national polls before the Comey announcement in late October. The final pre-election polls had Clinton up by 3.1 percent nationally. She won by 2.1 percent. That 1 percent difference is closer than the national poll average was in 2012, just the error didn't go in our favor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right

National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.

Ironically, all 12 polls that had Clinton ahead turned out to be closer to the final outcome than the poll that had Trump ahead. While that may seem crazy — since Trump, not Clinton, is headed to the White House — it's true. The poll that put Trump ahead (by 2 points) was off by 4.1 points, while polls that gave Clinton the lead were off anywhere from only one-tenth of a point to less than 4 points.

National polling did much better in 2016 than in 2012, when the average of the final polls in the contest between President Obama and GOP nominee Mitt Romney was off by more than 3 points. Polls showed Obama winning the popular vote by only seven-tenths of a point, and on Election Day he captured a wider 3.9-point vote margin.

The popular narrative that she was so far ahead in the polls in the final pre-election polls that there must have been actual votes changed isn't supported by the evidence.

[Honeycombe8]

29. Clinton was still a shoe-in to win, up until the election results. That's why people were surprised.

The Comey surprise had an effect. But not an effect that changed the race. It stopped what little momentum she had, and she lost some in the polls. But she was still ahead in 12 out of 13 polls. and predicted to win by almost all predictors. (There were a couple of outliers, like Michael Moore and another guy, who said Trump would win; but they were saying that before the Comey surprise.)

A decrease does not a LOSER make. But RUSSIA intervened, and locked it in. Including HACKING some state election systems, including those where there was a SURPRISE WIN by Trump in close areas. Coincidence? Hardly. It was RUSSIA.

Newsweek article October 31, 2016 (after the Comey surprise):

Over at The Upshot, the daily election forecast shows Trump has inched up by another percentage point. He now has a 10 percent chance of winning the election, compared to Clinton’s 90 percent chance. On Friday morning, Trump had a nine percent chance of winning, while a week ago Clinton had a 93 percent chance of coming out on top.

http://www.newsweek.com/presidential-election-polls-october-31-trump-clinton-515320
A decrease of 3% chance of Clinton winning, after Comey surprise. Still at 90% chance.

On Friday, (Trump) had 42.5 percent of support, and that increased to 43.3 percent by Sunday.

A .8% increase in support for Trump after Comey surprise.

On November 7, day before election:

Forecasts still show Clinton winning the election. FiveThirtyEight shows Clinton with a 65.5 percent chance of winning the election, while Trump has a 34.5 percent chance of victory.

http://www.newsweek.com/polls-presidential-election-trump-clinton-november-7-2016-517857

Clinton is predicted to take 292.6 electoral votes, compared to Trump’s 244.6. Clinton is also expected to win 48.6 percent of the popular vote to Trump’s 45.5 percent.

So Clinton outperformed on the popular vote.

Clinton’s chances are even better over at The Upshot. For the third day in a row, Clinton has an 84 percent chance of becoming the next U.S. president, while Trump has a 16 percent chance.

And on and on. Clinton was favored to win almost across the board. As is usual, the difference between the two narrowed as election day approached. But the Comey surprise didn't have enough effect to change the election results. THIS WAS WHY EVERYONE WAS SURPRISED by Trump "winning." BECAUSE ODDS WERE, ACCORDING TO MOST POLLS AND EXPERT PREDICTORS, THAT CLINTON WOULD WIN.

But no one knew the wide machinations of RUSSIA at that time. I remember thinking that Russia might interfere in state election systems. We now know they did.

But it's easier to blame one person, one event, rather than Russia. But that is indeed what happened. That is WHY people were surprised at the Trump win. She was a shoe-in, even after the Comey surprise.

Look at the OP and ask yourself: Would Trump like this post? If the answer is yes, you know the post is wrong.

[triron]

36. You omitted Prof Wang at Prineton's election consortium at 99%

even the day before the election. It was hacked and stolen.

[Honeycombe8]

37. +1. nt

[orleans]

25. great piece. thanks for the link! n/t