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Two Waffle House Stories, Separate and Unequal (Original Post) EffieBlack Apr 2018 OP
I'll say at the outset I hate color labels...(I'll gladly explain why for any who want to know why) Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #1
Well said. Garrett78 Apr 2018 #3
Tim Wise is a national treasure EffieBlack Apr 2018 #7
kick Demovictory9 Apr 2018 #2
It's unreal, Effie.. they blatantly show Cha Apr 2018 #4
Over and over and over again. The same stories play out. Kablooie Apr 2018 #5
K&R gollygee Apr 2018 #6

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. I'll say at the outset I hate color labels...(I'll gladly explain why for any who want to know why)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:57 PM
Apr 2018

But this just has infruiated me on so many levels. The NRA TV seems to hint that hero James Shaw may have been able to prevent deaths had he been armed...bullshit! What would have happened if police showed up to a mass killing and this guy was standing there with a gun??? I'd like to think the best, but, if we're honest, we know the worst is more probable!!

As to this young woman who was stripped naked in a Waffle House in Alabama...I really hate to say Alabama is gonna Alabama but...Godamn!!! If you request plastic utensils and become upset when they charge you more for this...that's a totally normal reaction, I'd respond the same way!!! And yet, it is somehow acceptable to those in this community for the cops to come and not only subdue but strip this woman down to her skin...that's justice in America? No that shit is from a bygone era and we should be absolutely outraged until something like this NEVER happens again!

As a "liberal" white man in the south...this responsibility for change falls on us. White supremacy is not a black or brown or immigrant problem...it is a problem of white america! I will support any movement for equal rights until the day I die, but until the folks who have been indocrinated and blinded and raised in a world where their melanin insufficiency is called out by their "kind" and white folk realize that just because the shade of their skin doesn't make them better...then we will continue on this paradigm.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Well said.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:00 AM
Apr 2018

Tens of millions are in denial about something that is so sadly common. And that's nothing new. Tim Wise once pointed out that even in the very early '60s a vast majority of white Americans essentially believed racism was nonexistent.

If I were to ask you, “Do you believe that folks of color had equal opportunity and were treated equally in 1963, or whether or not black children were treated equally in schools and had equally educational opportunity in 1962, I know right now no one in here would say, “Well, of course, naturally they did in 1963. That was a damn good year to be black or brown in America.” Everyone regardless of your opinion in 2007 would quickly acknowledge how bad it was back in the day, because it is no sweat off your back. Forty four, forty five years later, it’s easy to talk about how bad it was, but see, here’s the trick: What do you think those white folks said when those very questions were put to them in 1963, and in 1962, in a time where the apartheid system was very much in effect? It was before the Civil Rights act, before the fair voting acts, before the fair housing act. In retrospect, we can all look back and say how profoundly unequal it was, and yet when white folks were asked, some of them our parents, our grandparents, great uncles great aunts. These ancestors of ours were asked the very same question in 1963. “Do you think people of color” – they didn’t use that term, they said racial minorities – “Do you think that racial minorities are treated equally in your community?” And 80% of white folks said yes. In 1962, when Gallup asked, “Do you think that black children receive equal educational opportunities in your community?” 90% of white folks said yes. Nothing to see here. What is all this complaining? What is this march on Washington? I don’t get it. I don’t understand it.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
5. Over and over and over again. The same stories play out.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:58 AM
Apr 2018

will it ever change? Seems like it won't at all in our lifetimes.
My impression is that it's getting worse but, being white, it might be that I'm just hearing more about it because of the increased prevalence and speed of news today.
In any case it's insane and wrong.

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