"She was not accessible," they said.

[mcar]

This entire thread is worth a read. Makes me

Link to tweet

?s=19

"She was not accessible," they say, though she walked through rain to shake hands and listen to concerns.

There's a reason why you never saw these photos in the news or attached to articles. Let's make sure they are for the next female candidate who runs for President.

[Me.]

1. KR

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Most qualified person to EVER run.

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. +1

[joshcryer]

17. Without a doubt.

[jg10003]

18. highly qualified yes, but not the most qualified

Nixon and Gore; congressman, senator, vice-president before running.

James Buchanan; chairman of house judiciary committee, senator, ambassador to Russia, ambassador to England, secretary of state.

[erpowers]

46. Lyndon Johnson?

Does Lyndon Johnson count? Representative, Senator, Senate Majority Leader, Vice President, and President due to Kennedy's death.

[jg10003]

50. We are referring to non-incumbent party nominees. LBJ doesn't qualify.

[MagickMuffin]

61. Hillary Clinton

First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the USA, Senator, Secretary of State.


I believe Hillary's tenure as SOS gave her the necessary tools to be just as qualified as the three you mentioned, perhaps even more so.

[mcar]

25. Yes

[WhiteTara]

33. She only lacked one little thing.

[Eliot Rosewater]

34. In the case of rump it is little

[onetexan]

41. no doubt

the DOTUS in the WH needs to be kicked out and Hillary ensconsed. There's no other way to right the egregious wrong that was done to Hillary.

[BobTheSubgenius]

49. I totally agree.

One point stands out, apart from all the experience in related occupations - who has EVER run that knows the day-to-day mechanics of the White House and the Presidency more than a 2-term FLOTUS?

[niyad]

3. we saw that lie repeated by people who should have known better.

[NastyRiffraff]

5. Many, many times

And with even worse lies about her. Yes, I'm still angry.

[calimary]

11. Take a number!

I’m still fucking FURIOUS over the way she was treated as everybody’s favorite piñata- or go-to pin cushion.

She was and remains THE most qualified and best prepared candidate America has ever had. And a lot of America spit on her.

[mcar]

26. We sure did

Still makes me so angry.

[Mr. Ected]

6. Excuses. Dissembling. Misdirection

It wasn't just FOX. It was the mainstream media. It was social media. This was a concerted effort to favor one candidate and skewer the other. The media's influence on voters cannot be overstated. Our country's reins are in the hands of the wealthy and privileged, and their lack of candor and cavalier treatment of the truth signals the death knell of democracy.

[calimary]

12. Andrea Mitchell and the like.

[NBachers]

21. Cokie Roberts and the like

[Volaris]

23. Andrea Greenspan knows damn well that Hillary is smarter than her...

Can't have that be noticeable to those who watch Andreas show, now can we?

[Botany]

7. I have heard from a person who should know that HRC in person was a kind and warm but ....

.... the media, the RNC, Fox, Trump, and Russia spread stories about her being cold and hard,

[llmart]

9. I clearly recall an article years ago in Newsweek magazine...

where the reporter sat down with the staffs of both Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Dole, whose husbands were running against each other. Elizabeth Dole was supposed to represent the so-called reputation of Southern warmth and hospitality and Hillary wasn't. However, the upshot of the article turned out to be that Elizabeth put on a facade but behind the scenes her staffers didn't think she was very caring of their lives whereas Hillary's staffers mentioned how she would always enter the room and ask whoever was there how their children were, even remembering their children's names, or ask about a particular event in their lives and would always leave with a friendly "See you later alligator" and laugh.

Of course only the people who read Newsweek would hear about that.

[Rorey]

10. I've always gotten that sense about her

I think I'm usually a pretty good judge of character. I never believed she was what she was portrayed to be by the media.

I'd love to sit down and have a cup of coffee with her.

[joshcryer]

19. When Obama's speechwriter met Clinton for SoS the entire group was pensive.

Obama's entire staff was like "why is Obama choosing her?" But after a single day in her presence they found out that all the bullshit about her for decades was just that, bullshit. She was a warm, caring, listener. She wanted to get a job done and listened to what was said. She didn't talk over anyone. She was just, there.

[VWolf]

16. And you know what?

If she were a man, they would have used those same "cold" and "hard" descriptors as compliments, saying she was "tough" and "gritty"

[StevieM]

62. The partisan FBI did even more damage. (eom)

[Lifelong Protester]

8. K & R !

[mcar]

27. Excuse me?

[bettyellen]

28. This tweeter is working on a documentary on what HRC meant to young girls. Your comment is vile, RW

Bullshit. Please correct it.

[OilemFirchen]

29. Da fuq?

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[stevenleser]

31. See BettyEllens #28 above. nt

[SunSeeker]

14. K & R

[Fla Dem]

15. MSM thought she was going to be elected, so built up drama to make race interesting & "news" worthy.

She toured the country well before the primaries,(her listening tour in 2015) meeting with small groups of people to hear their concerns. Her one on one interactions with people were not as exciting as Bernie's or Trumps "Big" rallies. She wasn't a carnival barker or great orator, or wildly gesturing politician. She simply listened and spoke to people. For that the media called her a failed candidate.

[Native]

52. I think it was more than that - true disdain perhaps

In following many reporters tweets during the campaign, it was clear that they knew (even owned up to it) that they were damaging her campaign & definitely going too far (600+ days covering EMAILS?). Some were so arrogant to think they could keep it from getting out of hand, control things so Trump would not be elected. We all saw how well that worked out! Personally, I think the media had more to do with Hillary's loss than anything else.

[oasis]

20. I'm wishing Hillary all the best. She more than deserves it.

[NBachers]

22. Don't get me started . .

And let me protest that "Russian Bot stirring the pot" post a ways up this thread.

[BigmanPigman]

24. It will happen again!

They obstructed Obama for 8 years and if Hillary had won, they would have done the same to her. Americans are racists and misogynists but never admit to it. Their votes show otherwise. Now they have been empowered by the biggest racist, misogynist moron on the planet and his base is wearing those negative qualities out loud and with pride.

[mcar]

30. Yes, and they have to give themselves an excuse for the sexism and racism

[democratisphere]

32. This is all part of the propaganda used to neutralize interest and voters

for HRC. It is all a load of GOP/Russian/drumpf fake crap that needs to be countered in 2018 and 2020 elections.

[betsuni]

35. K&R

[LAS14]

36. k & r

[Cha]

37. Brilliant tweet about the reality of what

actually went on, mcar!

Link to tweet

Mahalo!

[mcar]

39. I helped at a few rallies, Cha

Didn't Get to meet her, but I was stuck by her warmth onstage.

[Cha]

42. Lucky you, mcar!

It's sickening there are those with an agenda who are trying to re-write history.

Damn it's a good thing Hillary is a strong woman!

[mcar]

43. It still makes me sick

The way she was, and is, treated.

[Cha]

44. They're all so GREEN with Jealousy they

can't see straight.

[sprinkleeninow]

48. I picked your entry to review the GE debate. Hope you don't mind.

Y'all remember how Hillary was ganged up on so close while she was addressing that group in front of her.

His body language. He was breathing down her neck almost. She should have spun around and let him have it with words delivered as only she could. But alas, they would've made something out of that.

That right there make me so ill.

Here's him--
Answer: "Wrong."
Answer: "Wrong."
Answer: ''Wrong."
Stable genius.

Presidential material.

[Native]

53. Me too, and the only guy that keeps calling them on it is Eric Boehlert

I love his tweets!

[mcar]

60. I do too!

I've been following him for a long time.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

38. K&R

[bluestarone]

40. I feel most here would say no BUT

To me she earned another shot!! HILLARY 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's how i feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She DID NOT LOSE!! She was ROBBED!!!!

[Persondem]

45. Hell yes! K & R nt

[mcar]

47. Thanks

[betsuni]

54. Prove it.

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LOL Portland.

[betsuni]

58. Like, rilly?

[ehrnst]

59. But being outside of an arena listening was more "access" to the candidate?

Especially when what was said by both was in the media the next day.

So no, one didn't need $2700 to learn what was said, nor did someone need to be in a huge crowd to hear what was said.

Security guards to keep protestors from BLM at bay certainly doesn't indicate "access."

I think that there are some candidates that will never, ever be considered to have "good optics" by some.

[George II]

63. I saw Hillary Clinton during the campaign, didn't pay a penny. Also saw Bill Clinton....

....for free, too. He appeared with Gabby Giffords and her husband.

[StevieM]

65. Hillary did plenty of rallies and town halls.

In the primaries and in the general election.

And in 2008 as well.

[George II]

66. She, Bill, Obama, Biden, etc. were ALL accessible during the various Presidential campaigns.

It's unheard of to charge admission to rallies, they are few and far between if ever.

I've now seen Bill Clinton three times, Hillary once, and Obama once (and Al Gore, too!), all it cost me was the price of gas and parking.

[StevieM]

67. The media has definitely written the Gore rally out of the history books.

They can't very well acknowledge a rally where HRC highlighted that she wasn't taking anything for granted and that every vote counts. That gets in the way of their narrative of an arrogant candidate who thought she couldn't lose.

[ehrnst]

56. She was told in 2008 that huge crowds made her look like she wanted to "be crowned."

She did far more listening sessions with smaller groups in her second run. And of course, she is told that those "optics are bad."

Either way, she's wrong....

Yes, fundraising is neccessary. Some politicians get excoriated for it more than others. She did it, because Obama didn't, and she raised it for whoever was going to run for office on the Democratic ticket.

Why do you think that being in a crowd of 28,000 people gave you more "access" to a candidate? Especially with security guards to protect against protesters from BLM.

Some events get excoriated as "facism" for calling in security guards, while others are considered "accessible."

Stops at middle schools and town halls might not have the "optics" of thousands of people in a crowd, but certainly it's more accessible.

[George II]

64. Really? There were only 19,000 in the Moda Center for that event.

[ehrnst]

55. She is more comfortable dealing directly with people than in front of screaming crowds.

She is a team player, and those that have actually worked with her are very strong supporters of her.