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nolabear

(41,963 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:29 PM Apr 2018

Jesus Christ hes rambling along dissing Dems while Macron stands there.

I am so damned sick of his simplistic, uninformed (he had to ask how the vote worked) bullshit and raving. He’s not a plain spoken man, he’s a bullshit artist who knows one thing, how to encourage people to hate one another and to use it for his benefit.

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Jesus Christ hes rambling along dissing Dems while Macron stands there. (Original Post) nolabear Apr 2018 OP
I thought Macron was a liberal or not a conservative, guess not. Otherwise why show up at all Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1
Macron sees a vacuum in European relations with the US. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #4
above all he's an opportunist looking to get something for his country 0rganism Apr 2018 #5
Macron is no fool DFW Apr 2018 #13
Or appointed a proponent of appeasement as Ambassador to Great Britain LanternWaste Apr 2018 #15
There's something about Trump Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #2
Gee...me too. Could we be being used? nolabear Apr 2018 #3
An act jaxind Apr 2018 #6
That handshake wrestling match at the end! nolabear Apr 2018 #8
I could be wrong but I think Macron is befriending t-rump Iliyah Apr 2018 #7
He was certainly finessing the whole thing. nolabear Apr 2018 #9
He is not befriending Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #12
OK, I like your assessment better! Iliyah Apr 2018 #14
Doesn't even know what a "present" vote is EffieBlack Apr 2018 #10
Right? Other countries must be trying as hard as we to survive him. nolabear Apr 2018 #11
I hope he's trying to talk to him Corgigal Apr 2018 #16

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. I thought Macron was a liberal or not a conservative, guess not. Otherwise why show up at all
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:31 PM
Apr 2018

Would FDR have flown to Germany in 1941 to visit Hitler?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
4. Macron sees a vacuum in European relations with the US.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:37 PM
Apr 2018

Spanky isn’t getting along well with May or Merkel, so Macron likely sees the possibility of increasing France’s influence by making nice with Trump. But I’m sure he’s smart enough to realize that Spanky can’t be trusted as far as he can throw a grand piano.

0rganism

(23,953 posts)
5. above all he's an opportunist looking to get something for his country
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:38 PM
Apr 2018

i'm pretty sure FDR wouldn't have gone to Germany in 1941, but we're hardly in that position (yet). Macron's well within the bounds of traditional statecraft here, imho. he's going to work Trump like a borrowed plowhorse and cut all kinds of nifty advantage-France deals if he can, and i can't say i blame him. Americans elected a shiftless tyrannical moron so we should expect all the benefits that such stable genius leadership can provide, especially if it makes Russia look more attractive by comparison.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
13. Macron is no fool
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:45 PM
Apr 2018

He ran on a "none-of-the-above" platform in France and blew the competition away. He is out to feel the pulse here, and tell Merkel and the rest of the Western EU what he see as being the real situation in the USA. What the EU can expect in the way of economic and military cooperation, and where they need to be prepared to go it alone (which, I can tell you, they increasingly are).

Macon knows what a "con fini" Trump is. He's looking to see if there are any signs of life elsewhere in our government.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Or appointed a proponent of appeasement as Ambassador to Great Britain
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:49 PM
Apr 2018

"Would FDR have flown to Germany in 1941 to visit Hitler?"

Or appointed a proponent of appeasement as Ambassador to Great Britain who later went on to have close ties to McCarthy?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
2. There's something about Trump
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:31 PM
Apr 2018

that makes me feel like he doesn't represent me as an Democratic American. I just can't figure out what.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. I could be wrong but I think Macron is befriending t-rump
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:39 PM
Apr 2018

to stop WW3. He's trying to convince him to be a better person(????)

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
9. He was certainly finessing the whole thing.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:40 PM
Apr 2018

It must be exhausting trying to hold things together.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
12. He is not befriending Trump.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:44 PM
Apr 2018

He’s using him. He’s playing him like a Stradivarius in order to get some advantage for France. He will not be able to persuade Trump to be a better person; that would be like trying to clean the Augean stables.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
10. Doesn't even know what a "present" vote is
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:40 PM
Apr 2018

But at least he asked this time - usually, he just pretends he knows and just spouts of all loud and wrong.

What an embarrassment. Can you imagine what President Macron and his wife say about him when they're out of earshot? It's probably all they can do to keep from bursting out laughing in his face.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
11. Right? Other countries must be trying as hard as we to survive him.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:43 PM
Apr 2018

“Just get this over with. It won’t last forever. Just survive until he’s gone.”

I have never wanted to dance on anyone’s grave before but I SWEAR I’ll outlive him and celebrate. It’s nit my best feature.

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