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Is a discussion were having at work this morning. Not sure how it got started the discussions basically are always over the yard jockey radios. Now I respect mr Carter one of his most amazing accomplishments was the peace accord between Egypt and Israel. And as young man I served in a infantry battalion that pulled six months in the M.F.O. Multi national force to keep peace in Sinai this was in the 80s my tour.
Even though president carter only served one term and I was teenager. I tell these guys I work with the peace deal he brokered is still in effect today. Today Sinai has changed with elements of isis but when I was there. It was a beautiful peaceful tour of duty and I came home with a awesome tan for Christmas. And jimmy Carter stopped the killing between Egypt and Israel and that is quite the accomplishment.
hlthe2b
(102,298 posts)TEB
(12,862 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)Even though I am an atheist, I have always respected his Christianity, he walks the walk. Rosalind was a lovely First Lady and remains an amazing person. We need more like the Carters.
On edit: I never met him, but did meet Rosalind when she was FLOTUS. I was chosen to show her around the hotel where I as working and she was visiting. She was down to earth and genuine. I felt like I was walking around with my own mother.
Hey laffy at lunch read your reply kind words for Mrs carter. Read it to my friends they liked your kind words.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)I turned 18 in May of 1976 and registered as a Democrat, which I remain. I voted that November. Jimmy Carter was a better president than he gets credit for. I get sick of Republicans always saying Carter was the worst president, ever! Nope, not even close! To President Carter &
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)It was a thing of beauty watching the lightbulb come on. Even if he did shut it off a few seconds later. Never heard him complain about Carter again.
During the baby bush years when oil prices were skyrocketing, this guy lamented about how nice it would have been to have a previous president that had the foresight to see this would happen.
I replied. We did. His name was Jimmy Carter. Surely you remember he put solar panels on the White House? How he pushed to conserve energy? You laughed him out of office. Reagan came in, tore the panels down, said oil was great. You applauded him.
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)Whenever Gingrich or some current idiotic politician from there horrifies me. I have a little mantra: Martin Luther King, jr, Jimmy Carter, Julian Bond, Sally Yates and Max Cleland (if you do not know him, google him). This list makes me proud and calms me. They are all from GA.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)done dirty! A real hero from the Vietnam era, trashed by an administration of chicken hawks.
lastlib
(23,251 posts)Just thinking of his name makes me go -- --
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TNNurse
(6,927 posts)You are absolutely right.
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)After Watergate, America was turned off by the crooks in Washington. Nixon had been pardoned. Gerald Ford inherited the White House for a couple of years.
Then the people decided that a man of honor and integrity was something that our country needed.
They voted for Jimmy Carter.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But overall not one of the great Presidents. He did get unfairly blamed for a hostage rescue failure. But he was weak in handling the economy. I remember living through that and wishing that he could get a handle on the economy. I didn't want to vote for someone else, but couldn't see voting for continuing double digit inflation. He should have, I thought at the time, stepped aside and let Ted Kennedy run as the Democratic candidate, because it was clear Carter wouldn't win. (Ted Kennedy, with a lot of support, challenged Carter for the party nomination, but failed.) But Carter didn't step aside. So Reagan won in a huge landslide.
He was good in foreign policy, but not good in economic areas. Most people vote on the economy. "It's the economy, stupid" is the saying.
It was a horrendous time, economy-wise. Interest rates to buy a car got over 20% at one point, I remember. Can you imagine? Prices were up at every visit to the grocery store. The economy was going to crash at that rate. How different history might have been, had Ted Kennedy been the nominee. He might not have won, but there was support for him, so maybe. There was little support for Carter, even in the Dem. Party. Although all agreed he was a good, honest, ethical, smart man.
hueymahl
(2,498 posts)He inherited the mess and hangover from the Vietnam war. To this day, presidents get way too much blame and credit for the economy. If anything, he stabilized the mess from the prior republican administrations, allowing saint ronnie to take the credit for the inevitable turn around.
I suggest you do a little more research into our economic history. You are spouting conventional wisdom, that is for sure, but if you look a little deeper, you will realize this "conventional wisdom" is a carefully crafted story by the trickle down assholes that real historians are starting to pick apart.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Anyone who knows anything has no need to attack a person personally, esp when the person made a respectful assessment in the first place.
I suggest you search your soul to discover why you view someone else's assessment being different from yours as a personal attack on you, and why you find it so disturbing that people disagree.
It is my assessment that Carter was exceptional in the foreign policy area, but was unable to handle the economic issues facing the country. That was not just my assessment. That was a generally recognized assessment at the time.
I thank you for your comments, however. I did live through that era and witnessed everything firsthand. I am very well informed on the topic and speak with certainty about the certainty of Carter losing the election, yet his insistence on giving it a shot, even without the support of most of the Democratic Party. It was not just MY assessment. It was the collective assessment of most voters in the country.
I am a logical, objective person. I rarely let love and adoration interfere with my views of a politician's job performance. I am different from many Democrats in that regard. The old saying is "Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line."
Loved Carter as a person and foreign policy expert and in diplomacy. Did not love him regarding economics. Loved Obama in every way possible. Loved Clinton in MOST of his economic policies, disagreed re NAFTA, loved his foreign policy skills, people skills. Did not love his personal behavior.
No one is perfect.
hueymahl
(2,498 posts)But rather an attack on the right wing conventional wisdom that Carter was a poor economic president. I still think that is a BS position.
That said, in hindsight I can see how my post could be interpreted as a personal attack, and for that I apologize.
My dream team would have been Ted Kennedy for president, with Carter serving as secretary of state
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)lark
(23,121 posts)He is totally revered in South America for his push for democracy in their countries and by the thousands of people that he has helped by building them homes. He literally walks the talk, even left his church because of their racism. What an amazing man with an equally amazing wife.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)I've attended a friends fundamentalist baptist church occasionally.
I mention to the Pasteur he should mention President Carter in a sermon some time, what with Jimmy being a life time Christian and all.
The facial response I got led me to conclude Jimmy is not high up in the can't-wait-for-the-rapture crowd's list of most admired born-agains.
-90% Jimmy
hueymahl
(2,498 posts)I would love for them all to be raptured.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)over women's rights. They will never forgive or forget.
jalan48
(13,871 posts)when he could have made millions cashing in on his post-Presidency.
Rhiannon12866
(205,552 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)is one of the most criminally under publicized event of the last 100 years. A peace accord that continues to last to this day. The Mid East situation would be a whole lot worse without it.
Incidentally, I was condition in my household to be despondent over Carter's win in 76, and to celebrate Reagan in '80. Such was my upbringing. Fortunately I saw the light later on in life.
samnsara
(17,623 posts)....dont ask me why. But I did come to love Carter and appreciate him more and more over the years.
Submariner
(12,504 posts)LBJ and Nixon were horror shows in office and President Carter was such a good man compared to them and the shitbird that followed him.