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Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:39 AM

President carter a fine president

Is a discussion we’re having at work this morning. Not sure how it got started the discussions basically are always over the yard jockey radios. Now I respect mr Carter one of his most amazing accomplishments was the peace accord between Egypt and Israel. And as young man I served in a infantry battalion that pulled six months in the M.F.O. Multi national force to keep peace in Sinai this was in the 80s my tour.

Even though president carter only served one term and I was teenager. I tell these guys I work with the peace deal he brokered is still in effect today. Today Sinai has changed with elements of isis but when I was there. It was a beautiful peaceful tour of duty and I came home with a awesome tan for Christmas. And jimmy Carter stopped the killing between Egypt and Israel and that is quite the accomplishment.

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Reply President carter a fine president (Original post)
TEB Apr 2018 OP
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1
TEB Apr 2018 #2
Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #3
TEB Apr 2018 #4
Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #18
GWC58 Apr 2018 #7
grantcart Apr 2018 #9
mercuryblues Apr 2018 #28
TNNurse Apr 2018 #5
GWC58 Apr 2018 #8
lastlib Apr 2018 #11
TNNurse Apr 2018 #12
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #6
kentuck Apr 2018 #10
Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #13
hueymahl Apr 2018 #16
Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #19
hueymahl Apr 2018 #29
jes06c Apr 2018 #20
Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #22
lark Apr 2018 #14
90-percent Apr 2018 #15
hueymahl Apr 2018 #17
brer cat Apr 2018 #23
jalan48 Apr 2018 #21
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #24
mnmoderatedem Apr 2018 #25
samnsara Apr 2018 #26
Submariner Apr 2018 #27

Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:42 AM

1. Had the opportunity to meet him many times. He is just a truly GOOD man.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:50 AM

2. That is so cool

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:16 AM

3. The first president I ever voted for and am still proud of my choice.

Even though I am an atheist, I have always respected his Christianity, he walks the walk. Rosalind was a lovely First Lady and remains an amazing person. We need more like the Carters.

On edit: I never met him, but did meet Rosalind when she was FLOTUS. I was chosen to show her around the hotel where I as working and she was visiting. She was down to earth and genuine. I felt like I was walking around with my own mother.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:45 AM

4. Awww

Hey laffy at lunch read your reply kind words for Mrs carter. Read it to my friends they liked your kind words.

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Response to TEB (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:26 PM

18. Wow. Thanks, TEB.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:18 AM

7. Likewise

I turned 18 in May of 1976 and registered as a Democrat, which I remain. I voted that November. Jimmy Carter was a better president than he gets credit for. I get sick of Republicans always saying “Carter was the worst president, ever!” Nope, not even close! To President Carter &

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Response to GWC58 (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:36 AM

9. +1

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Response to GWC58 (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 09:48 AM

28. I Got one republican to shut up about Carter

It was a thing of beauty watching the lightbulb come on. Even if he did shut it off a few seconds later. Never heard him complain about Carter again.

During the baby bush years when oil prices were skyrocketing, this guy lamented about how nice it would have been to have a previous president that had the foresight to see this would happen.

I replied. We did. His name was Jimmy Carter. Surely you remember he put solar panels on the White House? How he pushed to conserve energy? You laughed him out of office. Reagan came in, tore the panels down, said oil was great. You applauded him.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:14 AM

5. I was born and raised in GA.

Whenever Gingrich or some current idiotic politician from there horrifies me. I have a little mantra: Martin Luther King, jr, Jimmy Carter, Julian Bond, Sally Yates and Max Cleland (if you do not know him, google him). This list makes me proud and calms me. They are all from GA.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:22 AM

8. Max was really

done dirty! A real hero from the Vietnam era, trashed by an administration of “chicken hawks.”

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Response to GWC58 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:40 AM

11. And I will NEVER forget or FORGIVE that ASSHOLE Saxby Chambliss!!

Just thinking of his name makes me go -- --

-- -- --

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Response to GWC58 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:44 AM

12. My late mother was a huge fan of Max.

You are absolutely right.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:15 AM

6. First vote for President. Never regretted it

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:37 AM

10. I look at President Carter the way I will look at the President that succeeds Donald Trump

After Watergate, America was turned off by the crooks in Washington. Nixon had been pardoned. Gerald Ford inherited the White House for a couple of years.

Then the people decided that a man of honor and integrity was something that our country needed.

They voted for Jimmy Carter.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:53 AM

13. He is a good person, and did some good things.

But overall not one of the great Presidents. He did get unfairly blamed for a hostage rescue failure. But he was weak in handling the economy. I remember living through that and wishing that he could get a handle on the economy. I didn't want to vote for someone else, but couldn't see voting for continuing double digit inflation. He should have, I thought at the time, stepped aside and let Ted Kennedy run as the Democratic candidate, because it was clear Carter wouldn't win. (Ted Kennedy, with a lot of support, challenged Carter for the party nomination, but failed.) But Carter didn't step aside. So Reagan won in a huge landslide.

He was good in foreign policy, but not good in economic areas. Most people vote on the economy. "It's the economy, stupid" is the saying.

It was a horrendous time, economy-wise. Interest rates to buy a car got over 20% at one point, I remember. Can you imagine? Prices were up at every visit to the grocery store. The economy was going to crash at that rate. How different history might have been, had Ted Kennedy been the nominee. He might not have won, but there was support for him, so maybe. There was little support for Carter, even in the Dem. Party. Although all agreed he was a good, honest, ethical, smart man.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:20 AM

16. NO offense, but your criticism of Carter is BS

He inherited the mess and hangover from the Vietnam war. To this day, presidents get way too much blame and credit for the economy. If anything, he stabilized the mess from the prior republican administrations, allowing saint ronnie to take the credit for the inevitable turn around.

I suggest you do a little more research into our economic history. You are spouting conventional wisdom, that is for sure, but if you look a little deeper, you will realize this "conventional wisdom" is a carefully crafted story by the trickle down assholes that real historians are starting to pick apart.

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:33 PM

19. The tone and language of your attack on me is evidence of your ignorance on the topic.

Anyone who knows anything has no need to attack a person personally, esp when the person made a respectful assessment in the first place.

I suggest you search your soul to discover why you view someone else's assessment being different from yours as a personal attack on you, and why you find it so disturbing that people disagree.

It is my assessment that Carter was exceptional in the foreign policy area, but was unable to handle the economic issues facing the country. That was not just my assessment. That was a generally recognized assessment at the time.

I thank you for your comments, however. I did live through that era and witnessed everything firsthand. I am very well informed on the topic and speak with certainty about the certainty of Carter losing the election, yet his insistence on giving it a shot, even without the support of most of the Democratic Party. It was not just MY assessment. It was the collective assessment of most voters in the country.

I am a logical, objective person. I rarely let love and adoration interfere with my views of a politician's job performance. I am different from many Democrats in that regard. The old saying is "Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line."

Loved Carter as a person and foreign policy expert and in diplomacy. Did not love him regarding economics. Loved Obama in every way possible. Loved Clinton in MOST of his economic policies, disagreed re NAFTA, loved his foreign policy skills, people skills. Did not love his personal behavior.

No one is perfect.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 05:55 PM

29. I did not intend it to be an attack on you

But rather an attack on the right wing conventional wisdom that Carter was a poor economic president. I still think that is a BS position.

That said, in hindsight I can see how my post could be interpreted as a personal attack, and for that I apologize.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 04:33 PM

20. I agree

My dream team would have been Ted Kennedy for president, with Carter serving as secretary of state

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Response to jes06c (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 07:39 PM

22. That would have been a winning combination. nt

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:53 AM

14. I love President Jimmy Carter, the best man to be president in my lifetime.

He is totally revered in South America for his push for democracy in their countries and by the thousands of people that he has helped by building them homes. He literally walks the talk, even left his church because of their racism. What an amazing man with an equally amazing wife.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:09 AM

15. Evangelicals

I've attended a friends fundamentalist baptist church occasionally.

I mention to the Pasteur he should mention President Carter in a sermon some time, what with Jimmy being a life time Christian and all.

The facial response I got led me to conclude Jimmy is not high up in the can't-wait-for-the-rapture crowd's list of most admired born-agains.

-90% Jimmy

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:21 AM

17. I have one thing in common with the Evangelicals

I would love for them all to be raptured.

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 10:07 PM

23. President Carter severed his ties with the Southern Baptist Church

over women's rights. They will never forgive or forget.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 04:39 PM

21. A very ethical person. He chose to help build houses for homeless and low income people

when he could have made millions cashing in on his post-Presidency.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 03:31 AM

24. And it was not easy, both Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin tried to walk away, but he persevered

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 07:01 AM

25. the Isreal/Egypt peace accord

is one of the most criminally under publicized event of the last 100 years. A peace accord that continues to last to this day. The Mid East situation would be a whole lot worse without it.

Incidentally, I was condition in my household to be despondent over Carter's win in 76, and to celebrate Reagan in '80. Such was my upbringing. Fortunately I saw the light later on in life.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 08:29 AM

26. my first year at college.. i was an older student..single parent... i did vote for Ford

....dont ask me why. But I did come to love Carter and appreciate him more and more over the years.

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Response to TEB (Original post)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 09:02 AM

27. Jimmy was a welcome relief following the two assholes that preceded him

LBJ and Nixon were horror shows in office and President Carter was such a good man compared to them and the shitbird that followed him.

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