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Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:15 PM May 2018

Just heard that another one of my former students died from a heroin overdose...

Last edited Sat May 5, 2018, 04:44 AM - Edit history (1)

I was a high school librarian here in rural Southwest PA....I think this bring the number to 14. I am so damn sick of going to the funeral home. These were good kids...each and everyone of them. My heart is broken once again.

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Just heard that another one of my former students died from a heroin overdose... (Original Post) Freedomofspeech May 2018 OP
I'm very sorry. Downtown Hound May 2018 #1
My sincerest condolences... Docreed2003 May 2018 #2
[Hug] Throck May 2018 #3
Aww, so sorry to read this. babylonsister May 2018 #4
Why the hell are they cutting drugs with this? WHY? Because it's cheap? Surely there are other Kirk Lover May 2018 #25
Which heroine? Scarlet? Dorothy? Anne with an E? McCamy Taylor May 2018 #5
Seriously? MontanaMama May 2018 #6
I think Freedomofspeech is in pain. Aristus May 2018 #9
Ugh! Saying Scarlett O'Hara was a heroine is offensive. Coventina May 2018 #11
Flippancy can be heartless. This is one of those times. Take it down. Hekate May 2018 #12
Why do you believe Freedomofspeech is being honest? greyl May 2018 #15
It is all too common in our country these days, & has nothing to do with the education system... Hekate May 2018 #24
Really? I was upset and did not realize my error. Freedomofspeech May 2018 #19
That's an insensitive, thoughtless post about a student who committed suicide. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #22
Oh how nice of you...pointing out a spelling mistake..especially when someone is in pain. Kirk Lover May 2018 #26
Oh for fuck sakes give it a rest BannonsLiver May 2018 #28
My Dear Freedomofspeech, blue-wave May 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author greyl May 2018 #14
OMG! This is horrible! ProudLib72 May 2018 #8
I so understand. Laffy Kat May 2018 #10
Heroin is a derivative of opium, sadly there's pretty much no way to stay off it ansible May 2018 #17
Yes, I know. I started doing a lot of research as soon as I knew. Laffy Kat May 2018 #20
It depends on how you measure success rates Major Nikon May 2018 #29
I am so terribly sorry for your losses. Hekate May 2018 #13
That's really tough! lunatica May 2018 #16
So sorry Tracyjo May 2018 #18
Extending my sympathy and empathy. Duppers May 2018 #21
What's driving our society to this? I travel a lot IluvPitties May 2018 #23
Multiple reasons, one of which is the development of new drugs that were peddled to doctors... Hekate May 2018 #27
The legitimate prescribing has contributed loyalsister May 2018 #30
This Hekate May 2018 #31
I'm so sorry Freedomofspeech. The whole country should know. 14? Unimagineable. mahina May 2018 #32
I have lost students, too. AwakeAtLast May 2018 #33

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
2. My sincerest condolences...
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:41 PM
May 2018

In our county, we had six teenage/young adult ODs in a week stretch, one of which hit incredibly close to us. This epidemic must be addressed!

babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
4. Aww, so sorry to read this.
Fri May 4, 2018, 11:26 PM
May 2018

It is deadly out there.

http://interactive.fusion.net/death-by-fentanyl/intro.html

Fentanyl

The naked truth: a drug you’ve never heard of is killing thousands of Americans a year.
By: Cristina Costantini, Darren Foster, and Mariana Van Zeller

If you want to understand how bad the opiate epidemic in America has become, look no further...

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
25. Why the hell are they cutting drugs with this? WHY? Because it's cheap? Surely there are other
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:57 PM
May 2018

things that are cheap and can be used to cut it with.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
11. Ugh! Saying Scarlett O'Hara was a heroine is offensive.
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:12 AM
May 2018

And, please try to consider the state of mind and heart of the person making the post.

That would be truly heroic.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
15. Why do you believe Freedomofspeech is being honest?
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:31 AM
May 2018

Obvious misspellings are a hallmark of trolls, especially ones claiming to be part of the liberal education system.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
24. It is all too common in our country these days, & has nothing to do with the education system...
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

..."liberal" or otherwise. People know this about the opioid crisis. We've had some old-time DUers post about their children's friends and how many funerals they have gone to, one after another after another. It's horrible, and I saw no reason to doubt the OP unless you have real information otherwise.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
19. Really? I was upset and did not realize my error.
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:46 AM
May 2018

Have you lost your heart and soul like the rest of the country?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. That's an insensitive, thoughtless post about a student who committed suicide.
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

You've damaged your reputation and ability to be taken seriously, McCamy Taylor.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
26. Oh how nice of you...pointing out a spelling mistake..especially when someone is in pain.
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:59 PM
May 2018

Well fucking done.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
28. Oh for fuck sakes give it a rest
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:10 PM
May 2018

You’re not funny, your timing is for shit and that joke is hackneyed.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
7. My Dear Freedomofspeech,
Sat May 5, 2018, 12:49 AM
May 2018

I am so sorry for your loss and pain. The drug epidemic, illegal and (legal??) prescription has gone on for too long in our country. I hope and pray that someday, the groundswell that is required to fight and conquer this epidemic materializes. Until that day stay strong. For yourself, for your students, for us and for everyone. We're here with you.

Response to blue-wave (Reply #7)

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
10. I so understand.
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:06 AM
May 2018

My niece is a heroin addict. She's brilliant, beautiful, and so creative. She simply fell in with the wrong crowd in high school. She is the only child of my only sibling. Every time I see a call from Florida, my heart stops. She is trying so hard and has gotten clean several times. It's just so hard to stay off.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
17. Heroin is a derivative of opium, sadly there's pretty much no way to stay off it
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:26 AM
May 2018

At best, and only with intensive and extremely expensive treatment, the success rates are only 5-10%.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
20. Yes, I know. I started doing a lot of research as soon as I knew.
Sat May 5, 2018, 05:57 AM
May 2018

Sadly, I know much more about it than my sister and BIL. They have had their heads in the sand all from the start. Denial, I suppose. They have enabled my niece for years. Of course, that's easy for me to say because I have no idea how I would deal with it if it happened to one of my kids. The good news is that they are relatively well off financially and are able to place my niece in good rehab centers, although it is beginning to take its toll on their finances, there have been so many rehab efforts. And now they are also having to pay for her hepatitis-C treatment which is horribly expensive even with their insurance. I am so worried about all of them

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
29. It depends on how you measure success rates
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

People who are forced into substance abuse treatment by court order have dismal success rates and skew the results. Some studies also classify failure rates by short-term relapses which isn't an accurate measure of long term success.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. That's really tough!
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:19 AM
May 2018

That’s like losing a whole generation. I’m sorry for your loss. It’s so sad to lose young people who had so much potential.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
21. Extending my sympathy and empathy.
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:44 AM
May 2018

Lost a beloved friend 3yrs ago. I had no idea he used. He was a brilliant, productive, wonderfully sweet person but stressed out.






Hekate

(90,674 posts)
27. Multiple reasons, one of which is the development of new drugs that were peddled to doctors...
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:05 PM
May 2018

...as being non-addictive or "very low incidence" of addiction. They were and are being overprescribed -- for instance to high schoolers with sports injuries, or adults with back pain, or anybody really.

When the prescription renewals stop and doctor shopping doesn't work or the ERs get to know someone too well, eventually a "friend" suggests an easier and cheaper source...

Just one strand in the problem. There are communities where otherwise healthy and young people are literally dropping dead from ODs -- sometimes a whole bunch at once if a bad batch of heroin comes in on the daily delivery.

I, along with no doubt millions of others, did not have this on my personal radar until Hillary Clinton went on one of her "listening tours" in small towns and asked: What is your greatest concern? They did not say "jobs," they said, "Opioids."

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. The legitimate prescribing has contributed
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:41 PM
May 2018

People who spent lifetimes doing physically demanding labor now live with chronic pain. There has also been an increase in cancer and need for palliative pain control meds. And, many war veterans live with pain due to injuries. The kids and grandkids started dipping into those RX supplies for recreation.
Now that the RX drugs are less available they have turned to heroin because it is cheaper.

It's tragic and people who suffer are being punished for it.

mahina

(17,651 posts)
32. I'm so sorry Freedomofspeech. The whole country should know. 14? Unimagineable.
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:37 PM
May 2018

Holding you in light, and the students and your community.

Downthread another DUer, Hekate, mentioned that Hillary brought the opioid epidemic to peoples attention, which I did not know. Mahalo Hekate.

When we live in communities with other problems, as I do, we just don't hear about this.

Sending you aloha and a hope you can forgive those among us who are not showing you the best of themselves here.

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