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RandySF

(58,800 posts)
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:08 PM May 2018

Shouting match erupts on House floor over chaplain

Two lawmakers on Tuesday evening erupted into a shouting match on the House floor over Speaker Paul Ryan’s firing — and then reinstatement — of the House chaplain, reigniting a contentious religious fight the Wisconsin Republican hoped would fade.

No. 4 House Democrat Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), who is Catholic, and Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) got up in each other’s faces on the House floor and squabbled over the merits of a special investigation into the dismissal. The exchange was so heated that some lawmakers and aides watching worried they’d come to blows, though Crowley’s office said that was never going to happen.

The rare display of anger on the chamber floor, which is governed by strict rules of decorum, shows the forced resignation of Father Patrick Conroy remains a hot button issue. The standoff, in fact, came days after Ryan, under pressure internally and externally, backtracked on his decision to push out Conroy.

The confrontation started after Crowley offered a privilege resolution to establish a select committee to investigate Conroy’s forced resignation. Democrats have accused Republicans of discriminating against Catholics, though Ryan, himself a Catholic, has said his conference members had “pastoral needs” that weren’t being fulfilled.



https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/08/house-chaplain-shouting-match-576131

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Shouting match erupts on House floor over chaplain (Original Post) RandySF May 2018 OP
Do not mess with Jesuits mcar May 2018 #1
Holy War in the House! Scurrilous May 2018 #2
love to see the video,lol SummerSnow May 2018 #3
Why do we need a House Chaplin? dhol82 May 2018 #4
We don't Ron Obvious May 2018 #8
Yup. n/t dhol82 May 2018 #12
We do need one. pangaia May 2018 #17
Angry Invisible Sky Wizard Proxy Fight!!!!! hatrack May 2018 #5
Latter Day Fungelical republican Firebreather or Ye Olde One Holy Apostolic Catholic Padre ? Achilleaze May 2018 #6
Right wing Catholics who are in bed with evangelicals MaryMagdaline May 2018 #7
Shame they can't be so passionate about things like healthcare for children. Doodley May 2018 #9
"God will provide somethingsomething loving hearts something Jesus something boostraps." hatrack May 2018 #10
This is the only Crowley I know: Ilsa May 2018 #11
Make hell great again vercetti2021 May 2018 #18
I burst out laughing when he said that. Ilsa May 2018 #22
Me too vercetti2021 May 2018 #23
What connection is there between republican'ts and truly religious people? S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #13
And we have finally reached this level of Idiocracy ProudLib72 May 2018 #14
My guy talks to the invisible man in the sky better than your guy. NightWatcher May 2018 #15
pastoral needs" that weren't being fulfilled. pangaia May 2018 #16
Damn, that could go sooooooo many ways. dhol82 May 2018 #19
None of which would include Beethoven. pangaia May 2018 #20
True. dhol82 May 2018 #21

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
4. Why do we need a House Chaplin?
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:13 PM
May 2018

Isn’t there supposed to be a separation of church and state?
Also have a problem with the National day of prayer. What is that all about?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
8. We don't
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

And, yes, it's obviously a church/state violation. I don't see how it could be spun any other way. Plenty of religious institutions in DC for the lawmakers who require shamans and spiritual advisers. No need to waste tax money.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. Latter Day Fungelical republican Firebreather or Ye Olde One Holy Apostolic Catholic Padre ?
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:17 PM
May 2018

We prostheletize, you repent.

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
7. Right wing Catholics who are in bed with evangelicals
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:19 PM
May 2018

Have to understand that they want a theocracy that will eliminate Catholics, Jews, Episcopalians, Methodists and any "high church" Christians from any religious influence.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
11. This is the only Crowley I know:
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:30 PM
May 2018


And he's a favorite character. Along with his "mother", Rowena.

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S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
13. What connection is there between republican'ts and truly religious people?
Tue May 8, 2018, 08:42 PM
May 2018

The only use republican'ts have for religious people is to pretend to care about what Jesus would want to do.

Nobody with a brain believes any of the republican'ts actually care about what Jesus would want or would accept a word of advice from Jesus.

There is absolutely nothing in the republican't agenda that Jesus would support.

Any religious person with a shred of decency would avoid any association with republican'ts.

Then, you have the Evil-gelicals who supported Roy Moore. They are the only kind of so-called "religious" people who should stand beside republican'ts.

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