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Fri May 11, 2018, 06:40 PM

I wonder where Avenatti learned to play the dozens




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Reply I wonder where Avenatti learned to play the dozens (Original post)
EffieBlack May 2018 OP
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #1
Me. May 2018 #2
EffieBlack May 2018 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #10
Me. May 2018 #17
Cha May 2018 #13
Me. May 2018 #16
brush May 2018 #3
HipChick May 2018 #7
Cha May 2018 #14
scarletwoman May 2018 #18
byronius May 2018 #4
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 #5
winstars May 2018 #8
populistdriven May 2018 #9
mcar May 2018 #11
smirkymonkey May 2018 #12
Cha May 2018 #15
Me. May 2018 #19
Cha May 2018 #20

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:46 PM

1. Poor rudy and donnie, a couple of dimwitted assholes coming up against

a real patriot and a patriot with a brain.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:47 PM

2. Excuse My Ignorance

What's the dozens?

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Response to Me. (Reply #2)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:52 PM

6. It's an insult contest on steroids

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:08 PM

10. Interestingly, insult contests in poetry seem to have existed

in a variety of cultures for centuries - for example, Norse, old English, Celtic, Inuit, Arabic, ancient Greek, Japanese and Finnish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting "The exchanges would become extremely provocative, often involving accusations of cowardice or sexual perversion."... "Flyting is similar in both form and function to the modern practice of freestyle battles between rappers and the historic practice of the Dozens, a verbal-combat game representing a synthesis of flyting and its Early Modern English descendants with comparable African verbal-combat games such as Ikocha Nkocha."

Maybe it developed independently in various societies as a ritualized way of fighting without violence. Now it's becoming a Twitter form!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:26 PM

17. Thank You EffieBlack

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Response to Me. (Reply #2)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:14 PM

13. Mahalo for asking, Me..

I was going to google.

Oh I did anyway..

Dozens is oral legacy rooted in survival

The dozens is a game of verbal combat, played mostly by black males on street corners. It is designed to teach participants to maintain control and keep cool under adverse circumstances.

"We played the dozens for recreation, like white folks play Scrabble," H. Rap Brown once said.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-02-11/features/1994042244_1_mothers-dirty-dozens-censures

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Response to Cha (Reply #13)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:26 PM

16. Glad I'm Not Alone

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:47 PM

3. Effie, how many people here do you thing know what...

"playing the dozens" is?

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:52 PM

7. I knew what it means..

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:16 PM

14. We do now..

Dozens is oral legacy rooted in survival

The dozens is a game of verbal combat, played mostly by black males on street corners. It is designed to teach participants to maintain control and keep cool under adverse circumstances.

"We played the dozens for recreation, like white folks play Scrabble," H. Rap Brown once said.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1994-02-11/features/1994042244_1_mothers-dirty-dozens-censures

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Fri May 11, 2018, 08:26 PM

18. I've known what it means for many years, although I couldn't tell you why or how or when.

I assume the reason I know what "playing the dozens" means is due to the fact that I'm an obsessive reader - books, magazine articles, newspapers, cereal boxes, movie reviews...

Somewhere along the line, I came across the term - loved it and remembered it.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:48 PM

4. Yeah me too. I've heard that term but I'm clueless.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:51 PM

5. That's a term I have heard in years

But yes he clearly knows how to flip someone's shit back at them

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:54 PM

8. Here ya go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dozens


The Dozens is a game of spoken words between two contestants, common in black communities of the United States, where participants insult each other until one gives up. It is customary for the Dozens to be played in front of an audience of bystanders, who encourage the participants to reply with more egregious insults to heighten the tension and, consequently, to be more interesting to watch. It is also known as "blazing", "hiking", "roasting", "capping", "clowning", "ranking", "ragging", "rekking", "crumming", "sounding", "checkin", "joning", "woofing", "wolfing", "sigging", or "signifying",[1][2] while the insults themselves are known as "snaps".[3][4]

Comments in the game focus on the opposite player's intelligence, appearance, competency, social status, financial situation, and disparaging remarks about the other player's family members—mothers in particular ("yo′ mama..."—are common. Those outside the African-American community, in fact, often use the incorrectly specific term "yo momma jokes" to refer to the dozens. Commentary is often related to sexual issues, where the game is then referred to as the "Dirty Dozens".[5]

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:01 PM

9. lol

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:09 PM

11. Oh my

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:11 PM

12. Touche!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:25 PM

15. With my new found knowledge..

Michael Avenatti seems to be a natural at playing the dozens.

Porn star's lawyer a 'street fighter' with Ivy League degree

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-media-savvy-lawyer-trumps-newest-nemesis-041701507.html

He does his homework!

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Fri May 11, 2018, 08:52 PM

19. ...

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Response to Me. (Reply #19)

Fri May 11, 2018, 08:57 PM

20. ..

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