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The battle in America is the battle of the decent against the deceitful. (Original Post) shockey80 May 2018 OP
well said saidsimplesimon May 2018 #1
Twas ever thus Cyrano May 2018 #2
That truly is the bottom line. onecaliberal May 2018 #3
K&R! Boomerproud May 2018 #4
And, might I add, Glamrock May 2018 #5
+1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #11
Decent vs Deplorable works too. n/t Martin Eden May 2018 #6
And the deceitful will win unless and until we start punishing lies FiveGoodMen May 2018 #7
You nailed it! meow2u3 May 2018 #8
Yes it is! THIS vlyons May 2018 #9
Trump is the preta king Taraman May 2018 #12
Exactly! vlyons May 2018 #13
Except that many of the deceived don't know they've been deceived Mr. Ected May 2018 #10
many are the deceived. but many love to believe. faith based politics. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #14

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
2. Twas ever thus
Sat May 12, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

It's a battle that been going on throughout human history.

And all too often, the deceitful have triumphed.

But if they win this time around, the struggle may be over. After all, fools with nuclear weapons really can bring about the end of our species. -- Or at best, a post-apocalyptic, "Mad Max" type of world.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
7. And the deceitful will win unless and until we start punishing lies
Sat May 12, 2018, 03:41 PM
May 2018

rather than treating them as protected speech.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Yes it is! THIS
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:48 PM
May 2018

It is about morality, ethics, integrity, honor, virtue -- not relentlessly money grubbing wealth by any means no matter what.

n Buddhist mythology there is a realm of the hungry ghosts, where extremely greedy people reincarnate. Beings there have huge bellies with insatiable appetites, but they also have very small mouths and long very skinny necks. So they can only eat a small morsel at a time, and it is extremely painful and burns as it goes down their throats. Beings in the hungry ghost realm suffer immensely and are there for eons. I would warn the greedy Trumpsters about the sin of greed, but alas they won't listen.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. Except that many of the deceived don't know they've been deceived
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:58 PM
May 2018

That's how propaganda works.

Not to say that many of these people wouldn't naturally gravitate towards being deceitful. I have no doubt that they do.

But we have to come to grips with the fact that we are a nation divided, where even our sources of FACT come from two different planets....one indigenous to the deceitful, the other to the truthful.

Our side happens to have a social conscience, something the "what's best for me and me alone is what I demand" crowd despises. They are greedy and egotistical, even if they're dirt poor. It's their nature. It's not ours.

We're what you aptly called "decent". I can live with that.

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