Could it get more embarrassing on the world stage?

[Soph0571]

Who knew the Ayatollah had a sense of humour????

[oberliner]

5. That is disgusting

[Larrybanal]

9. disgusting???

you say that while this pimple on the ass of america is our president? american evangelical religious leaders have already sided with satan to appease trump's vile life

[oberliner]

11. "I'm rooting for the Ayatollah" is what I find disgusting

[brush]

13. Ahhh...just because he's an ayatollah and an Iranian doesn't mean he's wrong on this.

trump is the one who fucked up by breaking our country's word in pulling out of the nuclear accord, putting doubt in other nation's minds as to our credibility, isolating us, and leaving our allies to go it alone.

That's what's disgusting.

[oberliner]

14. "just because he's an ayatollah"

Am I really reading this on DU?

[brush]

15. Diplomacy sometimes requires dealing with countries you may have disagreements...

in other areas but can reach agreement on limiting nuclear proliferation.

I'm actually surprised that anti-Muslim sentiment is so openly expressed here on DU.

Again, trump is the one at fault on this.

[oberliner]

16. I support the JCPOA

And I loathe the Supreme Leader and do not "root for the Ayatollah" in any way, shape, or form.

Such sentiments are repugnant.

[brush]

17. This is not 1979 anymore. These current Iranian leaders are more skilled...

at diplomacy than our idiot leader.

I'm with this ayatollah on this particular matter.

[tecelote]

26. Agreed. "I'm with this ayatollah on this particular matter."

Come on, just because you agree with one statement does not mean you endorse this persons entire philosophy.

BTW - Not all Iranians are bad - 'Just had to add that.

[brush]

30. Yes. You'd think that would be a given on this site.

[ProudLib72]

36. I deleted that post because evidently we can't be happy that someone is trolling the Rump

if that person is "disgusting". Kind of like we can't root for Ghouliani to make more damning statements. It's all or nothing for some.

[SylviaD]

31. Unfortunately, it appears you are.

I also find the "rooting for the Ayatollah" statement repugnant.

I will go farther and say I root for Trump before I would root for the Ayatollah.

I would urge the person who wrote that to please investigate conditions inside Iran for dissidents, atheists, union members, free speech advocates, and the LGBTQ+ community. Then see how much he wants to "root" for the Supreme Leader.

Disgusting.

[brush]

41. You would root for trump pulling out of the nuclear agreement...

over this ayatollah who is trying to preserve the accord which limits nuclear proliferation?

My God!

It's not 1979 anymore—different ayatollah, different times, and certainly a different, but stupid, president.

Have at it, root for the orange pustule all you want as he's just blown up the JCPOA.

[SylviaD]

42. I will not

I will not root for Trump - ever - nor will I root for the evil theocrat who rules Iran and brutally suppresses dissention and imprisons gays lebians and transpersons

[brush]

43. Well at least you changed the rooting for trump line over the...

ayatollah.

You do know that siding with this particular ayatollah's desire to preserve the nuclear accord doesn't mean that you side with him on all of his policies, right?

[Cha]

46. Thank You!

[SylviaD]

52. I changed nothing nt

[brush]

62. Do we believe you or our lying eyes? Below is your quote from earlier where you said...

you'd rather root for trump.

"I will go farther and say I root for Trump before I would root for the Ayatollah."

Come on, we're not stupid here. We can actually go back and read your previous posts.

[SylviaD]

66. That line is still there, I have not changed/edited it.

If forced to choose between Trump and the insane theocrat who puts LGBTTQ+ persons to death, I would choose Trump. Wouldn't you?

[brush]

67. You don't have to agree with everything one person advocates to agree with...

him/her on being against nuclear proliferation.

Understand?

And when the hell has trump all of a sudden been a friend of LGBTQs?

I'll answer that for you. NEVER.

Get a grip.

[SylviaD]

70. Trump doesn't execute them or imprison them, so far as I know.

btw this conversation is an example of why I have lurked here since 2008 and rarely post.

Perhaps as an older lady I just don't have the appetite for mindless argument and extreme, ugly statements like "I root for the Ayatollah".

Good day.

[brush]

72. Agreeing with this ayatollah against nuclear proliferation over trump's...

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violation of our country's signed agreement is actually the sensible position on this issue.

The orange pustule, who you seem to be agreeing with here, pulled us out of the agreement and left our allies in the lurch.

Think of what's best for our country and the world instead of just automatically being against someone because of their "ayatollah" title.

It's not 1979 anymore, there are no hostages, this is not Ayatollah Khomeini, and Secretary of State Kerry and the foreign ministers of our allies worked out the agreement with Iranian political leaders not their religious ones.

I would say different times, different players and different circumstances require a 2018 reassessment over the political realities that exist now but didn't in 1979.

[SCVDem]

63. Just because

He's an ayatollah, priest, rabbi, shaman, pope or witch doctor.

What's the difference. There was only one Ruhalla Khomeini. The times were right then for a change.

Times are different!

[forgotmylogin]

19. The right has loaded that term.

a·ya·tol·lahˌīəˈtōlə
noun
a Shiite religious leader in Iran.

It's no more disgusting than saying "I'm rooting for the Pope."

[zentrum]

24. Thanks. Good point.

[lunatica]

18. You always take everything literally don't you

“Siding with the Ayatollah” is obviously a joke.

[former9thward]

23. No it is not.

The poster was quite clear in their beliefs.

[lunatica]

25. Yeah, it's clearly a joke

I disagree with you.

[ProudLib72]

40. Evidently, I can't agree with the OP without offending

Anyway, I think it's funny that the Ayatollah took the time to troll the Rump, and I believe that was the humor that the OP insinuates. Some people, though!

[sandensea]

8. And, most importantly, he's not trying to get us into another disastrous war (unlike Cheeto).

He's thus being a better advocate of U.S. interests, than the current U.S. president himself.

The world is full of irony.

[former9thward]

10. You are rooting for someone who orders gays murdered.

And women oppressed. Ok....

[forgotmylogin]

20. There are factions in the US that also wish for women to be oppressed and LGBTQ people murdered.

Iran is a panalopy of old and new, but a large part is a modern society who live in cities of apartment buildings and watch television and go to work just like we do. The rightwingers like to keep their people thinking that the "muslim terr'rist" countries are all alike, but that is not simply the case.





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[former9thward]

21. You can post all the pretty postcard pictures that you want.

Iran uses the power of the state to sanction the murder of gays by hanging and throwing them off buildings. To try and state the Iranian government and U.S. government have the same policies towards gays and women is the highest level of false equivalency. No one is buying the propaganda.

[JI7]

33. Trump supporters would like to take away protections and trump has

And is taking away rights.

You never had a problem with that.

[former9thward]

54. A personal attack and TOS violation.

And one which is completely false. Just like you I have made a lot of posts. You know how to use the search function. Show where I "never had a problem with that".

[Haggis for Breakfast]

37. Do you have any links to back up your claim ?

[former9thward]

55. My claim?

I can't believe that is being posted on this site. Do people go around with their heads in the sand -- literally?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.198cd543c706

IRAN EXECUTES GAY TEENAGER IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iran-executes-gay-teenager-in-violation-of-international-law-463234

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/these-6-countries-execute-people-for-being-gay/

[Haggis for Breakfast]

65. It's not that anyone's head is in the sand

But this country is hardly the bastion of freedom for gays. You can't go a day in this country without hearing about some atrocity being visited upon the LGBT community, whether in the form of actual physical violence or discrimination or being denied the ability to live their lives like other Americans. [There are judges in this country that still have their heads firmly lodged up their asses when they make decisions such as - gays cannot adopt children, or in divorces, gays have their children taken from them, or how about doctors refusing to treat them - or their children - because they are gay, or landlords refusing to rent to them or sell a house to them or religious right (they are neither) hypocrites like bakers who won't make wedding cakes for them. I could go on, as the list in endless.]

When we, as a nation, treat the LGBT community with the same rights as every other American and stop fucking them over, maybe then we will have the right to be holier than thou with Iran or other countries who persecute gays, because from where I stand, this country has NO right to preach.

And NEVER forget that when HIV/AIDS began to strike down healthy young men (and Haitians and hemophiliacs and others), we had a man who went SEVEN years into his presidency ignoring the mind-boggling numbers of deaths and refusing to even address the epidemic. Now that is some staggering failure of leadership there. So spare me the Iran hates gays BS.

[forgotmylogin]

39. I didn't say Iran was perfect...

But we have two courses: we can bomb the shit out of them like DJT and John Bolton want, or we can go the diplomatic route, treat them as an equal sovereign nation, and work to change their attitudes without aggression.

That said, I can completely understand your hostility toward Iran and a long-standing history of violence towards homosexuality. I might humbly suggest we deal with the plank in our own eye before worrying about others.

[brush]

35. Thanks for the photos. Some on this site are shockingly rigid...

in their 1979-era thinking towards Iranians and ayatollahs (just a title for a religious leader in Iran).

You'd think progressives would know that all Iranians are not anti-everything, religious zealots—hell, the current leaders worked hard with Kerry and out allies for months to forge the agreement to stop nuclear proliferation only to see our orange pustule break our country's word by pulling out of it.

Stop the madness.

[OAITW r.2.0]

45. Interesting, isn't it?

Democrats got burned in the 80's when Khomeni did Carter in. The Ted Koppel nightly "X days of the Iranian hostage" blah, blah, blah didn't help. Reagan/Bush working to keep the hostages held until after the election should have been the story. Republicans have shorted this country since the 70's. You have to be pretty stupid not to know what the GOP DNA is.

[brush]

48. Yep, Reagan and his admin committed treason with that deal to not release the hostages...

until after the election. It was another in the long line of repug election cheating. They've probably only won one election legitimately since Ike...maybe HW Bush's election. All the others have been stolen/cheated to win, including the present orange pustule imposter in the WH now.

[SylviaD]

53. Yes, it is sickening. No amount of hatred for Trump will allow me to ally with such a person. nt

[Kurt V.]

12. oh please no.

we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

[warmfeet]

22. Mr. Vonnegut/Mark Twain icon , that would be so nice.

Not sure it will happen anytime soon, however. This journey may take a while. Then again, it may turn on a dime. I am hoping for the latter.

[Kurt V.]

49. Beautiful

[disndat]

29. I agree.

Such a perfect comment by the Ayatollah, with humor, on the Trump disastrous decision to end the hard-fought Obama Iran peace pact which all the Mideast experts are lamenting.

[BigmanPigman]

2. This reminded me of Weird Al singing "My Bologna"

in 1979 when the Ayatollah had Americans held hostage for over a year. He sang it to the tune of The Knack's My Sherona.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/flashback-weird-al-yankovic-unveils-my-bologna-in-1979-20130219

[JHB]

3. As someone once said... "They're laughing at us!"

It wasn't true when that someone said it, but it is now.

[world wide wally]

6. He has never understood that they are laughing at him!

[RKP5637]

51. tRump is a buffoon, a stooge and the whole world knows it. He's a carnival barker. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

4. K&R

Heh heh!

[flibbitygiblets]

7. What's more embarrassing? Wait til Rump starts making out with Lil Kim.

he was just warming up with Macron.

[True Dough]

27. Humour?

Where you from, Soph? Canadian? Brit? Aussie?

[Duppers]

34. That's important?

We have a lot of Canadians and Brits here.

[True Dough]

38. Relax!

I'm not trying to run her off the forum. It's a point of curiosity. I'm Canadian myself, so I notice such things.

[Duppers]

44. Oh, sorry.

I misunderstood.

[True Dough]

50. No biggie!

We're all on the same team (at least it seems that way sometimes).

[Cha]

47. Must be..

[deurbano]

59. I bought an iPhone while in the UK, and it autocorrects my texts to the British spelling.

(Like... favor becomes favour.) I know I could change the setting, but I like the autocorrect surprises!

[True Dough]

60. Interesting

Never thought about that possibility of foreign technology.

[Miigwech]

28. Our weakness has been exposed

[Amaryllis]

32. It takes intelligence to have a sense of humor.

[Scarsdale]

56. We are a laughingstock in the world.

We have a buffoon in the WH, who THINKS he is a "great leader". The truth is that all other countries recognize STUPID when they see it. The gun nuts/bible thumpers in the US are as uneducated as tRump. Bolton and Cheney are getting what they have wanted for years, war in the ME beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. They must be invested BIGLY in weapons and war equipment.

[jmowreader]

57. What I find hilarious in this photo

The national language of Iran isn’t Arabic, it’s Persian. Persian speakers really only proliferate in four places: Iran, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, and New York City.

Someone thought there’s enough of a market for a book-length Trump slam to translate it into a complex language spoken by only 110 million people.

[BobTheSubgenius]

58. I wouldn't have expected a fairly comical photo to be so polarizing.

And, yet again, I take the points of both sides of this issue.

[GoCubsGo]

61. Damn! "Fire and Fury" seems like ancient history at this point.

There has been such a fire hose of events that happened since it came out that I hat to think twice about what it was even about.

Good troll by the Ayatollah, though.

[oberliner]

64. "Good troll by the Ayatollah"

We're cool with praising the "Supreme Leader" here now?

[Blue_Tires]

68. YES, it can get a LOT more embarrassing on the world stage....

And I have the feeling we'll see the nadir in the very near future....

[Captain Stern]

69. No, someone being the enemy of your enemy , doesn't make them your friend.

HAHAHA.....The Iranian Ayatollah is making fun of trump too....why, he's just like us. Let's be pals.

Nope. Fuck that guy.

[SylviaD]

71. Amen. nt