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Exotica

(1,461 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 06:42 AM May 2018

Evangelical pastor who said Jews going to hell to give prayer at Jerusalem embassy opening

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pastor-jews-hell-jersualem-embassy-article-1.3988437

An evangelical pastor derided for saying Muslims, Mormons, Jews and others are going to hell has been picked to give a prayer at the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Robert Jeffress, a Southern Baptist preacher based in Texas, traveled to Israel for the official diplomatic change on Monday, as a participant in the ceremony.

Jeffress has supported the right-wing Israeli government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Trump's choice to move the embassy. Observers have criticized many conservative Evangelical Christians for backing the change due to its connections to the Book of Revelation and the end of the world, rather than the practical matter of recognizing where most of the Israeli government is based.

The preacher's role in a ceremony — already fraught with tension over the Israeli-Palestnian conflict — was also slammed as a result of his history of incendiary comments, such his declaration that many groups (including Jews) will go to hell.

"Robert Jeffress says 'you can't be saved by being a Jew,' and 'Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.' He's said the same about Islam," Republican Mitt Romney, who is Mormon and currently running for the U.S. Senate in Utah, said Sunday. "Such a religious bigot should not be giving the prayer that opens the United States Embassy in Jerusalem."

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Evangelical pastor who said Jews going to hell to give prayer at Jerusalem embassy opening (Original Post) Exotica May 2018 OP
Don't they all think that? oberliner May 2018 #1
No. Not all Christians hold such an absolutist view of salvation. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #18
There are evangelical pastors who believe you can go to heaven without accepting Jesus Christ? oberliner May 2018 #19
There are pastors who believe you can go to heaven without accepting Jesus Christ. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #20
So why evangelize? oberliner May 2018 #21
To spread the word ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #22
I always thought it was to get people to accept Christ oberliner May 2018 #24
Can one lead someone to their god without consigning those that don't to Hell ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #25
In this Sherman A1 May 2018 #2
I think we are already there Va Lefty May 2018 #3
It's actually quite funny in a completely warped, dead brain sort of way. OnDoutside May 2018 #4
Hilarious.. Rod Serling would be Cha May 2018 #7
I was thinking about Monty Python, but Serling works too ! OnDoutside May 2018 #8
That Embassy might send us all to Hell. HopeAgain May 2018 #5
Israel should be freaked out. The Southern Baptists arent there to help. They want Israel destroyed NightWatcher May 2018 #6
If Jesus was real... And he came back... LiberalFighter May 2018 #11
The average Israeli leftynyc May 2018 #16
Evangelicals see everything as a competition between Team Jesus and Team Satan. Girard442 May 2018 #9
Yes, it's a black and white world to them. LuvNewcastle May 2018 #14
Because of course he is Bettie May 2018 #10
Will Democrats promise to reverse this Embassy move? nt RandiFan1290 May 2018 #12
Dubious zipplewrath May 2018 #15
Well isn't that special... mountain grammy May 2018 #13
Good to know that the Christian Taliban is taking us straight to hell! Initech May 2018 #17
This pastor is a nutcase and scares me Gothmog May 2018 #23
18 dead. Iggo May 2018 #26
Political expediency makes strange bedfellows. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #27

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. There are pastors who believe you can go to heaven without accepting Jesus Christ.
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:22 AM
May 2018

Billy Graham was the most prolific apostle since Paul and he believed salvation was possible outside the church.

And Robert Jeffress doesn't decide where people spend eternity. G-d does.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. That Embassy might send us all to Hell.
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:06 AM
May 2018

Trump's biggest legacy may be the exacerbation of Middle East tensions to a boiling point.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Israel should be freaked out. The Southern Baptists arent there to help. They want Israel destroyed
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:10 AM
May 2018

The SB's think that the destruction of Israel will trigger Jesus to come back.

Are the average Israelis cool with this move?

Religion makes people stupid. It is a primary function and goal of religion.

LiberalFighter

(50,927 posts)
11. If Jesus was real... And he came back...
Mon May 14, 2018, 08:03 AM
May 2018

I seriously doubt that he would help those scumbags. Because 1) He is a Jew, 2) His teachings were based on a Jewish god, 3) Therefore anything not Jewish is not part of the "prophecy".

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. The average Israeli
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:14 AM
May 2018

considers the evangelicals and their moronic end times fantasies as nothing more than useful idiots.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
9. Evangelicals see everything as a competition between Team Jesus and Team Satan.
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:36 AM
May 2018

Anyone who gets in their way has got to be on Team Satan, right? Since Team Jesus must win, they feel that pulling out the shivs and the lead pipes and going after whoever they think is on Team Satan is a fine and upstanding thing to do.


Bettie

(16,105 posts)
10. Because of course he is
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:39 AM
May 2018

and the Israeli government will cheer him.

How twisted is this whole mess?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
15. Dubious
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:04 AM
May 2018

I've thought about that. Once done, there's no real value in undoing it. A more likely move will be to open some sort of embassy/consulate in the West Bank or Gaza Strip.

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