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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:18 PM May 2018

Conservatives' ludicrous new excuse: Liberals made us vote for Donald Trump!

Despite the whining of Bari Weiss and others, conservatives are adults. The left didn’t force them to support Trump

AMANDA MARCOTTE
MAY 15, 2018 9:00AM (UTC)

It's hard to believe it's come to this point, but apparently this needs to be said: Republican voters are adults, not children. They are responsible for their own choices. Liberals did not force them to vote for Donald Trump or support his policies.

One would think none of that needs to be said, especially since conservatives like to style themselves as the defenders of "personal responsibility." But apparently the idea is really taking root among the chattering classes that liberals practically held conservatives down and tormented them into voting for Trump. The argument is, I guess, that those who publicly decry racism and sexism are so obnoxious about it that they make conservatives double down on these bigoted beliefs. So progressives and liberals have more responsibility for electing Trump than the people who, you know, actually voted for him.

This bewildering thesis started spreading like a contagion after the resident troll at the New York Times, Bari Weiss, wrote yet another article arguing that well-compensated bigots with enormous audiences are being oppressed because liberals won't pretend to be impressed with their bad arguments. Weiss was laughed at online, which is what you get when you say silly things in public. And as trolls are wont to do, she then had a tantrum on Twitter.




Weiss' premise that liberals are somehow forcing conservatives to act like fools and bigots should be self-evident nonsense, but it appears to be an attractive proposition to many in mainstream media spaces. Andrew Sullivan argued in New York magazine that while he understands that Kanye West's praise of Trump is foolish, he found himself "instinctually siding" with West because the critics are just so gosh-darned critical. Then Gerard Alexander wrote yet another piece for the New York Times arguing that the "backlash against liberals" — a backlash he openly declares liberals are causing with their supposed self-righteousness — "is going to get President Trump re-elected."

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https://www.salon.com/2018/05/15/conservatives-ludicrous-new-excuse-liberals-made-us-vote-for-donald-trump/
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Conservatives' ludicrous new excuse: Liberals made us vote for Donald Trump! (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
From the party of "personal responsibility". Arkansas Granny May 2018 #1
Um, they were the ones that gave him the Republican nomination, overwhelmingly Zing Zing Zingbah May 2018 #2
They only did it to spite Hillary Clinton. n/t iscooterliberally May 2018 #3
So, they're saying we need to be "gosh-darned critical" about running with scissors? Solly Mack May 2018 #4
I get a kick out of how conservatives view liberals as self-righteous Zing Zing Zingbah May 2018 #5
Of course they would blame the liberals! They are Republicans. Frustratedlady May 2018 #6
Everyone in the world was telling them, "Don't put shit in your mouth" dalton99a May 2018 #7
If liberals keep calling people racist Nevernose May 2018 #8
My favorite moment is when they call us elitists. raging moderate May 2018 #9

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
2. Um, they were the ones that gave him the Republican nomination, overwhelmingly
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

Democrats can't vote in the Republican primaries, so they aren't to blame for selecting him as a candidate. They had like 10 other people to choose from and they picked him.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
4. So, they're saying we need to be "gosh-darned critical" about running with scissors?
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:26 PM
May 2018

Touching a hot stove?
Playing with matches?
Looking before you cross?
Juggling sharp knives?


Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
5. I get a kick out of how conservatives view liberals as self-righteous
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:29 PM
May 2018

The conservatives have some of the most self-righteous folks on the planet among them and that would the Christian conservatives.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. Of course they would blame the liberals! They are Republicans.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:33 PM
May 2018

Give us paper ballots and the Democrats will win. No more machine manipulation or cyber crime in our elections. I saw the other day that the Russians/Ukranians/whatever are doing practice runs on the primary voting machines.

If I'm wrong, prove it. It sure sounded logical to me.

dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
7. Everyone in the world was telling them, "Don't put shit in your mouth"
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:34 PM
May 2018

And they replied, "But it's such delicious shit"

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
8. If liberals keep calling people racist
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:35 PM
May 2018

How will we ever get the Klan/Nazi/White Nationalist vote? A person dresses up in white sheets, shouts “white power,” and votes for a moronic bigot like Trump, and liberals get all judgment-y and labeling people they haven’t even met as racist. What choice have we but to buy to buy MAGA hats and blame Mexicans for random events?

raging moderate

(4,304 posts)
9. My favorite moment is when they call us elitists.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:43 PM
May 2018

I have seen texts from billionaires calling lower middle class Democrats elitists.

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