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Wed May 16, 2018, 06:57 PM

"but Hamas" is the same thing as "but ghetto culture".

People with privilege justifying their bigotry.

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Reply "but Hamas" is the same thing as "but ghetto culture". (Original post)
redgreenandblue May 2018 OP
wonkwest May 2018 #1
uppityperson May 2018 #2
EX500rider May 2018 #3
Liberalhammer May 2018 #4
Liberalhammer May 2018 #5
el_bryanto May 2018 #17
GulfCoast66 May 2018 #6
Liberalhammer May 2018 #8
stevenleser May 2018 #9
backtoblue May 2018 #10
Liberalhammer May 2018 #12
marble falls May 2018 #15
Liberalhammer May 2018 #18
JI7 May 2018 #11
Liberalhammer May 2018 #13
hack89 May 2018 #7
leftynyc May 2018 #14
LanternWaste May 2018 #16

Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 06:59 PM

1. Just no

 

C'mon . . .

This reads like something a right-winger would write as a parody of something someone on the Left would write.

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:07 PM

2. What? Clarification please?

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:12 PM

3. Hamas:

"It is regarded, either in whole or in part, as a terrorist organization by several countries and international organizations, most notably by Israel, the United States and the European Union."

"Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Japan, New Zealand, Australia and the United Kingdom have designated the military wing of Hamas as a terrorist organization. The organization is banned in Jordan."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #3)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:31 PM

4. Thus, justifies every action

 

By the rightwing Netanyahu government against the rightwing terrorist HAMAS orgininization.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #4)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:32 PM

5. Oh....

 

....And everyone else who lives in the West bank.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #4)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:49 PM

17. One could also take it as while what Netanyahu is doing is intentionally provocative and wrong

and potentially leading to a lot more deaths, that doesn't excuse Hamas for their own actions. You can condemn both organizations while saying that the Israeli government has a lot more power to inflict damage on the Palestinians.

Bryant

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:41 PM

6. Yeah, well ya know, that's like your opinion

And it is bullshit.

Hamas is a fundamentalist Islamic organization that is repressive as they come. Pretty much every member in every group in the Democratic coalition would be in prison or dead if we turned up there and expressed ourselves. We can all visit Israel any time we want.

We let our distaste at Israelís actions normalize Hamas at our peril.

Sometimes a shitty group can be fighting an even More shitty group. And Hamas is as shitty as they come.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #6)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:02 PM

8. Pragmatism or situational principles?

 

It could never happen here? Yet, now children from illegal immigrant families are being kept separate from their parent(s) in US government camps.

So it's the lesser evil approach in Israel?

I have no faith in the rightwing fundemtalist criminal Netanyahu government, fueled by he wannabe traitor dictator Trump, and a rightwing terrorist Hamas, nothing good is going to come from this.

If it doesn't stop soon thousands are going to die, most of which will be non hamas West bank people.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:05 PM

9. Very little of what you write makes sense or directly responds to what others write

 

If you are in the right then you can withstand responding to other people on point, yes?

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2018, 11:11 PM

10. Welcome to DU Liberalhammer

You're style of writing is familiar. Have you been on this site before or post on any other liberal discussion boards?

backtoblue


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Response to backtoblue (Reply #10)

Thu May 17, 2018, 03:42 AM

12. A long time ago

 

I stopped after taking a stand for gun control on DU.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #12)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:19 PM

15. I think you can make any postion on gun control you want here, and as long as it doesn't get ....

personal you should be OK. You might get outnumbered but as long as you don't let yourself get trolled, you should be OK. What name were you posting under before?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #15)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:54 PM

18. The same

 

I think.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2018, 11:23 PM

11. are you comparing undocumented immigrants in the US to Hamas ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #11)

Thu May 17, 2018, 03:46 AM

13. No

 

Making a point about expectations about governments and those not in Hamas in the west bank.

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:57 PM

7. Hamas is a fundamentalist terrorist organization

There is no doubt about that.

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 04:16 AM

14. I realize it must

 

Be very uncomfortable for you and others here to have to acccept that in order to continue your hard on for Israel that it's very inconvenient and makes you ignore you're on the same side with a TERRORIST organization. That's nobody's problem but your own. But you can forget getting the vast majority of Democrats to join you in ignoring the facts.

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Response to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:46 PM

16. Simply making the allegation falls far short of illustrating it as true

 

Simply making the allegation falls far short of illustrating it as true. Attempt to support your hypothesis with some objective evidence for actual depth-of-thought.

Or just continue using your bumper-sticker in place of critical thought.

Either way. Your choice.

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