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kentuck

(111,094 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:04 PM May 2018

Students killed with .38 revolver and shotgun...

The numbers may have been much higher if he had an AR-15?

Ten killed and ten wounded sounds horrible, and it is. But it may have been a lot worse?

Our condolences to those that lost loved ones today.

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Students killed with .38 revolver and shotgun... (Original Post) kentuck May 2018 OP
I suspect more of the wounded would Ilsa May 2018 #1
Absolutely. blugbox May 2018 #2
You are correct. Snackshack May 2018 #4
The Slow Mo Guys did a demonstration of bullet speed csziggy May 2018 #6
Any rifle round would do worse damage than a shotgun or handgun hack89 May 2018 #3
It's sad that we have come to a point where we are discussing how one gun is much worse than another kentuck May 2018 #5
It will make no difference hack89 May 2018 #7

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. I suspect more of the wounded would
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:21 PM
May 2018

have died at the hospital if not sooner if an AR15 had been used. Surgeons who have ooerated on GS victims declare the AR15 causes much more extensive damage to the body.

blugbox

(951 posts)
2. Absolutely.
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:28 PM
May 2018

AR-15 rounds travel supersonic and cause massive flesh trauma. They are a weapon of war, designed specifically to kill humans efficiently.

Not to mention the much higher magazine sizes and much faster reloads. Yes, we can be thankful that at least it was not as bad as it could have been. But that of course does not take away any of the tragedy that has occured.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
4. You are correct.
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

They are designed exactly as you state. I read an the interview of a Doctor who treated the injuries sustained by the victims of the Las Vegas shooting and he was very clear about the enormous difference in damage done by an AR-15 vs. what he sees from handguns. The kinetic energy of these rounds is catastrophic. There were cases in that event of multiple victims being injured by the same bullet.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
6. The Slow Mo Guys did a demonstration of bullet speed
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:14 PM
May 2018

For several different guns - Barret .416, AK-47, .45 ACP, and 9 mm. Something they don't discuss much is the damage done to the watermelons they fired into.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
5. It's sad that we have come to a point where we are discussing how one gun is much worse than another
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

Sometimes I think we need a brand new House and Senate?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. It will make no difference
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:20 PM
May 2018

You need Dems in pro-gun states to take over, especially in the Senate.

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