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trof

(54,256 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:25 PM Aug 2012

I remember when the Olympic games were strictly for amateur athletes.

Pro athletes were barred.
When did that change?

Famous case : Jim Thorpe


James Francis "Jim" Thorpe (Sac and Fox (Sauk): Wa-Tho-Huk, translated to "Bright Path&quot [1] (May 28, 1888 – March 28, 1953)[2] was an American athlete of mixed ancestry (Native American and Caucasian). Considered one of the most versatile athletes of modern sports, he won Olympic gold medals for the 1912 pentathlon and decathlon, played American football (collegiate and professional), and also played professional baseball and basketball.

He lost his Olympic titles after it was found he was paid for playing two seasons of semi-professional baseball before competing in the Olympics, thus violating the amateurism rules. In 1983, 30 years after his death, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) restored his Olympic medals.

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I remember when the Olympic games were strictly for amateur athletes. (Original Post) trof Aug 2012 OP
1986 Zoeisright Aug 2012 #1
Tennis is especially uninteresting sadbear Aug 2012 #8
I agree. And who wants to watch Ilsa Aug 2012 #13
They should have allowed them to be sponsored UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #15
I'm aware of Jim Thorpe but don't actually remember him. Not that old. Lint Head Aug 2012 #2
I was having similar thoughts this morning. arbusto_baboso Aug 2012 #3
I always thought Mutt22 Aug 2012 #4
Russians and Eastern bloc nations, mainly. trof Aug 2012 #5
I knew the Russians Mutt22 Aug 2012 #7
Pretty much Johonny Aug 2012 #9
When it was amatuers, it was mostly a good old boys club hollysmom Aug 2012 #6
Do you also remember that the "amateur-only" policy was solely to benefit the 1%? Angleae Aug 2012 #10
Yes, who can forget the US team's uniform in 1968? NoPasaran Aug 2012 #11
Amateur has largely been a myth JonLP24 Aug 2012 #12
I'm sorry, but allowing pros in is such a bad idea. Great Caesars Ghost Aug 2012 #14

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
1. 1986
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:27 PM
Aug 2012

Olympic committee voted to allow any athlete to enter. They said "all of the world's great male and female athletes". I think that's a shame. I don't watch basketball or tennis because it's filled with pros. That isn't interesting.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
8. Tennis is especially uninteresting
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:45 PM
Aug 2012

They all just got done playing each other multiple times this summer.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
13. I agree. And who wants to watch
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:50 PM
Aug 2012

a basketball game finishing with a score of 145+ to 76? It's no fun.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
15. They should have allowed them to be sponsored
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

but that's it. Having millionaire pros playing is ridiculous.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. I'm aware of Jim Thorpe but don't actually remember him. Not that old.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:33 PM
Aug 2012

He was definitely the greatest athlete.

arbusto_baboso

(7,162 posts)
3. I was having similar thoughts this morning.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

Who exactly is paying the cash bonuses to the medal winners, and WHY? It makes an even bigger mockery of the olympics than they already were of themselves.

Mutt22

(76 posts)
4. I always thought
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012

it was mainly the American athletes that were amateur, most of the others used professionals.

trof

(54,256 posts)
5. Russians and Eastern bloc nations, mainly.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:49 PM
Aug 2012

Chinese too, I guess.
Not "pro" as we know it, but promising kids whose lives were pretty much taken over by the state and trained for the games. Winning medals was/is a big propaganda deal.

Mutt22

(76 posts)
7. I knew the Russians
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:43 PM
Aug 2012

used the Red Army Hockey team. They are getting ready to show a segment on American athletes who do not go to a traditional school and/or are home schooled in order to train for their sport on our local news.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
9. Pretty much
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:50 PM
Aug 2012

The whole argument about the purity of amateur sports is lost on me. College basketball and football are "amateur" sports. If those sports are refreshing compared to the Olympics then I'm missing something.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
6. When it was amatuers, it was mostly a good old boys club
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:50 PM
Aug 2012

Only those who could afford it played in the games. If it was really about only the best,people would not be entered by country and their national anthem would not be played.

Angleae

(4,484 posts)
10. Do you also remember that the "amateur-only" policy was solely to benefit the 1%?
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

Pierre de Coubertin, founder of the modern olympics, was a hardcore 1%er. He put that policy in so that the lower class couldn't afford to train enough to make the teams so that only the aristocrats could.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. Amateur has largely been a myth
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:31 PM
Aug 2012

When the Olympics were first created, "Amateur" was a rich person w/ a lot of time on their hands. Poor did not have the time off or the money to be an "Amateur". That is still true, having only amateurs would largely feature those that can afford to be amateurs.

 
14. I'm sorry, but allowing pros in is such a bad idea.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:21 PM
Aug 2012

1. Pros have NOTHING to prove.

2. It's more about ego than what the olympics REALLY stand for. Our basketball team is the worst in this because all they care about is more about triple doubles than just win the game.

3. Pro make bigger corporate olympic pawns than amateurs. Would you rather buy a box of Wheaties with Phelps on it or the Joe Schmo Public who won gold in team handball? I'll admit, it's very rare that an unknown darling becomes one.

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